REGULAR Thursday and Friday night games are going to do wonders for the gameday atmosphere at JTS-not. And we will be the ones the network will demand as we will be one of the top teams in the league, horrible in November/December; bad other times! Our brand is enhanced by our gameday atmosphere, hope we don't lose what we have.
If the B12 remains intact and moves forward
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In a couple posts you managed to go from 20 MM hit to a 50 MM hit. I’m curious how far you think this will go.
There is tension between being fan friendly and building the best program. We could add Northern Illinois and South Dakota State for drivable games and we could play them all at times Pollard chooses for maximum tailgating. But that means no money.
Even if the new Big 12 played one weeknight game per week throughout the entire season, that’s just one home game per school per year. Not exactly going to destroy ISU or the fan experience. One of the best crowds I remember was the Thursday night game vs Texas when Jeremiah George stuffed them at the goal line but we got screwed on the video review.
Cincy can draw TV viewers. 2019 Cincy-Memphis drew 2.5 mil. It was a good slot -network Black Friday. The same slot the next year had Iowa-Neb, which got just under 2.7. UCF can at times too.
If that’s the case, Jamie won’t be the ad by the time the new and “improved” big 12 begins play
So basically AAC levels. We are 28 MM TV for tier 1/2. We get 1 MM for tier 3 (rip off where we make less than on our own and OU and UT even gets a cut, so that could triple back to where it was) that puts us at 29 MM for TV and 11 for the rest. Bowlsby said 14 per OU and UT leaving. That drips us to 15.5 ( they aren’t getting a cut of our tier 3 anymore) plus 11 so 26.5. The CFP of expanded is estimated at 90 MM per bid. Put a team there (with 10 teams) and that bumps us to 35.5 total. That is going off then numbers we contracted for 10 years ago and no increase.
You’re arguing that 8 programs, that will see their tv revenue cut by an projected 14 million, because they essentially brought no media value without Texas and Oklahoma, will add 4 schools making less than 10 million in tv money and we will lose 3 million in tv revenue? Especially with the top two supposedly getting 80 + million per team, and the pac and acc getting that 35 number.
that’s optimistic, to say the least. Where is all that extra money going to come from for the big 8 plus 4?
This is a great post. Sincerely hope the service academies are in the mix. I would go BYU and the academies to get to 12. If 14, then I would go CSU and New Mexico. No city schools, no directional schools. Try to get some semblance of geographic coherence and provide an academic boost as well.
You obviously didn’t read my whole post because 1) I specifically said go 10 teams and 2) I detailed the money route.
So now we are in the MAC? lol. BYU is a P5 program for all intents and purposes really. Adding them and 2-3 of the Top AAC teams suddenly makes us equivalent to the 4th best G5 conference?
From an on the field and court perspective the new Big 12 would be better than the PAC and an argument could be made better overall than the ACC. From a $$ perspective it won't be.
I'd rather have both but that isn't possible right now. So the best case scenerio is forming a new conference with the best fball programs you can. All the Big 12 needs to do is not be dead last in competitiveness.
thats right, you can’t add all these teams and take 7m a year, only way you could do that is if you pay based off streaming viewers and tv viewers…
I think what everyone misses, if we 30m behind the pac 10, we just can’t afford to keep Campbell or anyone else good. Any power 4 team just offers Campbell 10m and we go right back to sucking…same with basketball
No I saw that you were using the numbers from 10 years ago.
but in your scenario, any new conference would be missing two key components. And Cincinnati and byu aren’t Texas and Oklahoma.
The new big 12 in your world doesn’t have one national brand program that will compel any network to give even equal money.
your fellow doom guy even projected 20 million tv dollars when he was trying imply we’d loan all these schools money to come to the big 12.
There’s no reasoning with the people who are doom and gloom about ISU’s future if it’s in a reconstituted Big 12; they just can’t wrap their minds around it. That league will probably be better than at least one of the ACC or Pac-12 most seasons. And it will be in the playoff.
2011 Okie St on a Friday begs to differ. I wouldn’t do it all the time, but if it is what it takes to maximize exposure and get enough revenue to be able to retain coaches and a good program, that’s what you do. When you’re talking about the survival of your football program, maximizing the time guys get to stand on asphalt and drink Busch Light isn’t a factor.
All that matters in terms of game day atmosphere occurs inside the Jack.
They’re the same teams though. networks don’t care about conference name, they care about the teams that make up the conference and how many eyeballs they can bring.
that conference has exactly zero name programs.
this isn’t 10 years ago when espn got outflanked by fox and cbs, so they gave Texas their own network to save the big 12 to stay in the game.
