One game is what we do now usually, no problem. I'm talking 3 or more per season if we are the big boys in the conference, which will probably be the case (ref OU and 11 am games this current season)
If the B12 remains intact and moves forward
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I’m glad you said that, because it’s shockingly dumb to think Wazzu would IMPROVE relative to Boise if BSU was in the Pac-12 and WSU was in the Mtn West. Truly one of the dumbest takes I have seen on this site.
Don’t sell yourself short here. You’re the one that is arguing boise state is superior to Washington state because of success on the field.
they play no one and Washington state plays good teams.
you should stick with your ideas about revenue. You’re not good at this football thing. I mean one of your hot takes was that the atmosphere for ut game on a Thursday night years ago was so amazing, it would be that same if we brought in boise state
I explicitly said the 8 would make less. How can you not understand that?
The post you responded to listed many programs outside the Big 8 that have had success. They’ll be making more. Do you disagree?
The truth is, in terms of converting budget to wins, it won’t be harder in an improved AAC. Nothing is harder in that regard than what ISU has been trying to do the last many decades.
One can ask whether those wins will be relevant, but in the near term they would be. Until the SEC forces complete stratification, programs like ISU in an improved AAC are not constrain until a program were to be not making the playoffs when deserving. And frankly, that’s the case for any non-blueblood in any conference. We will not be hurt as a program having seasons like UCF, Cincy, BYU etc in a conference on par with the PAC 12.
Further, this isn’t the last round, so I’m not worried about Iowa St moving for a few years from a stacked deck in the perceived 5th best brand (but way better on the field) to a less stacked deck in the perceived 5th best brand (but slightly better on the field). The PAC 12 is as it’s currently configured is dead. The sport is going to the top-32 or 48, likely when streaming and 5G based products takes off, and wins of any fashion are the best way to have a seat
Non-revenue sports may be gutted, but I don’t care about that.
What are you even arguing? Are you higher than giraffe balls? I'm sure everybody here agrees that adding aac or whatever teams is a bad thing.
I'm bowing out of this conversation. You want to argue to argue. I get it now.
I think the foremost question is would you rather be Boise St of the last xy years or Washington St?
Another 10 years and Boise St is likely taking WashSt’s spot in whatever western conference constitutes major college football. Putting budget before wins is not a good path for those needing to grow their brand. ISU needs to grow its brand. Winning in the old Big 12 does that faster than winning in an improved AAC, but both represent a future better than our past.
I don't necessarily want Friday night games either, I'm just talking about ways to get more money. But if you have 12 or 14 teams there are more teams to spread those Games around. I do remember a pretty special Friday night game in ISU history that got more publicity than they ever had before.
The Wednesday night game idea would be different as the only national game in prime time with no NFL to compete with either. It could be a good way to highlight the school.
Actually the question was would boise be better than Washington State if they had switched conferences and boise had to play pac teams instead of wac teams, and that followed saying that week night games would be electric because the ut game a few years ago was.
I'm not sure your idea of adding service academies makes you the best football conference you can be. It MIGHT give eyeballs(not sure of that either but it's interesting) but it won't give you the best product on the field.
Washington State. They are in a P5 Conference and make more money.
Boise State may have won in MWC but the competition is not as good. That is just a fact.
Maybe it would change with streaming? But Wednesday is still MACtion day in my head.
Anyways, weeknight games are only fun when you can take the Friday off. Wednesday games don’t really appeal to me.
Wednesday screams G5 but P5 leagues play on Thursday and Friday already. I guess if you have both teams a bye the week before Wednesday wouldn’t be hard on the players but otherwise it would.
You forgot BYU and Cincinnati…and the answer is a VERY clear yes. There’s a great analysis out there showing average rankings per conference and the Big 12 in that new configuration was better than both the ACC and PAC. So it’s not a matter of opinion, it’s a documentable fact.
Mid-week games are bad for attendance, bad for ticket sales, and bad for tailgating.
I think even the people who are open to them would agree with all 3 of those takes. They are also likely good for TV $$$ so they will at least be considered.
