I-35 / US 30 Flyover Progress

CYdTracked

Well-Known Member
Mar 23, 2006
18,583
9,413
113
Grimes, IA
As messed up as this project seems to be I sure hope they aren't using the same contractors for the Rider Corner flyover project coming up soon at the I35/80 and Hwy 141 exit. That is already a mess there at rush hour as it is the last thing they need is a big delay there when they start tearing out some of the on/off ramps.
 

mj4cy

Asst. Regional Manager
Staff member
Mar 28, 2006
31,814
14,783
113
Iowa
As messed up as this project seems to be I sure hope they aren't using the same contractors for the Rider Corner flyover project coming up soon at the I35/80 and Hwy 141 exit. That is already a mess there at rush hour as it is the last thing they need is a big delay there when they start tearing out some of the on/off ramps.


I don't think the DOT necessarily gets to pick the contractors. It's all public bid type work.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: oldman

mj4cy

Asst. Regional Manager
Staff member
Mar 28, 2006
31,814
14,783
113
Iowa
Changed the thread title to Highway 30. If there is some flyover project at the intersection at I-35 and US 20 that I'm forgetting, let me know and I'll change it back.
 
  • Funny
Reactions: cynile

CascadeClone

Well-Known Member
Oct 24, 2009
10,878
13,962
113
Not only are the alleged construction mistakes concerning, they seem to be working at a snails pace. Why don't they use 7 days and long hours to make some progress?

I've noticed this on a lot of different road projects. They seem to take months or years, but you rarely see anyone working on them - just heavy equipment sitting there idle. It's like there is only one contractor doing work, and they have 20 projects, so they only do 1 day per month on each project.

Any insights from the folks in the industry?
 

Sousaclone

Well-Known Member
Apr 29, 2006
1,853
1,179
113
North of Seattle
I've noticed this on a lot of different road projects. They seem to take months or years, but you rarely see anyone working on them - just heavy equipment sitting there idle. It's like there is only one contractor doing work, and they have 20 projects, so they only do 1 day per month on each project.

Any insights from the folks in the industry?

Just depends on the scope and and the schedule of the project. Some jobs have such a long term schedule that they don't need to turn and burn (especially on smaller projects where you don't have a lot of onsite overhead). Other times, especially with smaller contractors, they may only have a certain number of crews (or a certain type of crew) and they are bouncing them from job to job. An asphalt paving crew for example. A smallish contractor may only have one paver so it's got to go from job to job. One screw up and you get a nice ripple down the line. Or they could be waiting on utilities to get moved (this is always an issue with projects). Or the contractor is just a bum. Lots of possibilities, lots of reasons. Some are more legitimate than others.
 
  • Informative
Reactions: CascadeClone

Ms3r4ISU

Me: Mea culpa. Also me: Sine cura sis.
Staff member
Bookie
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
May 7, 2008
12,882
8,435
113
Ames
From my infalliable source of all news things local (Ames People Facebook group) the issue was more an inspector opinion versus a contractor offering. I claim no knowledge in this area at all, but it’s getting darn close to ISU FB season ... Good thing I live in Ames.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: khardbored

isufbcurt

Well-Known Member
Apr 21, 2006
27,526
44,483
113
46
Newton
I've noticed this on a lot of different road projects. They seem to take months or years, but you rarely see anyone working on them - just heavy equipment sitting there idle. It's like there is only one contractor doing work, and they have 20 projects, so they only do 1 day per month on each project.

Any insights from the folks in the industry?

I'm not in the industry but I asked someone associated with the Highway 330/Baxter exit project why they didn't pour the road last fall before winter and his reply was they had to let the land settle over the winter before they could pour the concrete.
 

MuskieCy

Well-Known Member
Nov 4, 2006
3,624
5,859
113
Our home was built in 1916. Arts and Crafts perfection.

We decided to get a new front storm door. 34.5" in width. Standard, off the shelf, was 32" or 36". That wouldn't do. Ordered a special fit.

Along with my father, DVM '58, we put everything in place and drilled to set in the new door handle. All went well and functioned perfectly.

When closing everything down,.....the handles of the interior and the new storm door hit perfectly, not allowing any closure of both at the same time. 10+ years and 2 degrees, including the DVM from ISU, and we screwed it up spectacularly!!!

Even "experts" eff things up once in a while. B^)
 
Last edited:

JP4CY

Lord, beer me strength.
Staff member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Dec 19, 2008
74,558
95,549
113
Testifying
Our home was built in 1916. Arts and Crafts perfection.

We decided to get a new front storm door. 34.5" in width. Standard, off the shelf, was 32" or 36". That wouldn't do. Ordered a special fit.

Along with my father, DVM '58, we put everything in place and drilled to set in the new door handle. All went well and functioned perfectly.

When closing everything down,.....the handles of the interior and the new storm door hit perfectly, not allowing any closure of both at the same time. 10+ years and 2 degrees, including the DVM from ISU, and we screwed it up spectacularly!!!

Even "experts" eff things up once in a while. B^)
You didn't have your doors drawn up in design software to make sure there was no interference.
 
  • Winner
Reactions: cynile

nfrine

Well-Known Member
Mar 31, 2006
9,882
12,060
113
Nearby
Our home was built in 1916. Arts and Crafts perfection.
We decided to get a new front storm door. 34.5" in width. Standard, off the shelf, was 32" or 36". That wouldn't do. Ordered a special fit.
Along with my father, DVM '58, we put everything in place and drilled to set in the new door handle. All went well and functioned perfectly.
When closing everything down,.....the handles of the interior and the new storm door hit perfectly, not allowing any closure of both at the same time. 10+ years and 2 degrees, including the DVM from ISU, and we screwed it up spectacularly!!!
Even "experts" eff things up once in a while. B^)
Where did you get your degree?
 

Mtowncyclone13

Well-Known Member
Oct 10, 2012
20,023
9,769
113
grundy center
You didn't have your doors drawn up in design software to make sure there was no interference.

giphy.gif
 
  • Funny
Reactions: khardbored

BigBake

Well-Known Member
Mar 17, 2006
6,768
628
113
49
U'dale
Add this tidbit to the debacle. They want to close I35 for ~8 hours (both directions) for the placement of the beams between the pillars. Apparently the contractor has never placed them at angle/slope like this project so they're not 100% sure how to do it and how long it will take.
 

mj4cy

Asst. Regional Manager
Staff member
Mar 28, 2006
31,814
14,783
113
Iowa
Add this tidbit to the debacle. They want to close I35 for ~8 hours (both directions) for the placement of the beams between the pillars. Apparently the contractor has never placed them at angle/slope like this project so they're not 100% sure how to do it and how long it will take.

A couple notes:

1. I'm surprised the DOT didn't have a clause in the RFP that the contractor have XX amount of experience in similar projects. This is pretty common.

2. As much as those 8 hours will be a pain to some, with some proper warning ahead, it shouldn't be too terrible.

3. I'd rather the contractor error on the side of safety and admit they aren't sure about some things rather than risk hurting drivers.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: khardbored

isufbcurt

Well-Known Member
Apr 21, 2006
27,526
44,483
113
46
Newton
Add this tidbit to the debacle. They want to close I35 for ~8 hours (both directions) for the placement of the beams between the pillars. Apparently the contractor has never placed them at angle/slope like this project so they're not 100% sure how to do it and how long it will take.

Imo this is not a big deal. Close it from 9 PM to 5 AM and just re-route traffic overnight.
 

beentherebefore

Well-Known Member
Nov 24, 2007
1,456
1,867
113
There are a number of routes to choose from if one lives on west side of DSM. Not sure why anyone west of 2nd Avenue would ever take I-35. I take the one through Granger and Madrid. Almost zero traffic (and because of that, 65+ mph is normal).

upload_2018-6-19_9-37-2.png
 

Latest posts

Help Support Us

Become a patron