Sounds like Hawk logic. what does attendance have to do with how good the 2 teams are?
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Sounds like Hawk logic. what does attendance have to do with how good the 2 teams are?
Terry Allen and Mark Farley are two separate individuals. I don't see the relevance of making such a comparison.
Unless you're saying that no UNI coach, by way of his association with UNI, could ever make it at a Div. IA program. Unless you're saying that no FCS coach can make it at a Div. IA program (see: Tressel). Unless you're saying that Allen and Farley are fraternal twins, and DNA would doom Farley at ISU as DNA doomed Allen at KU.
You saying any of these things? If not, why does Allen's failure dictate that Farley will fail if put in a like situation?
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Tressel gets Ohio State. He goes out to recruit and says we are Ohio State and recruits are beating down his door. If we got Farley, he goes out to recruit and says we are Iowa State and recruits say "Who?". Tressel is a good coach but recruiting to OSU is like UNC recruiting in basketball.
So what's his role? Obvioulsy not to make sense. Kelly was a decoy? Wrong.
It's typical that he would bring up Dan McCarney. I'm shocked that he didn't refer to him as "ISU's winningest coach", nevermind that he was "ISU's losingest coach", also. In an eerie coincidence my Hawk buddies also share the "You shouldn't have fired McCarney" sentiment. Why? Because he and his program were never a threat to Iowa or to the B12 for that matter. Hawks fans were and are content to lose to ISU and go to a good bowl while we floundered in the B12 and maybe went to a cheesy bowl. Iowa has consistently gotten the best in state recruits and McCarney couldn't change that despite beating Iowa 5 straight times.
Hlas and all other Hawk fans think that ISU somehow doesn't deserve to have a "splash" hire. They think that Iowa deserves success and ISU deserves mediocrity at most (see Dan McCarney). The Chizik situation reiforces this; since we'll never know if Gene would've turned it around Hlas can say "I told you so." I applaud Pollard for rolling the dice on a guy who could've been, dare I say it, ISU's Hayden Fry. Guys like Hlas conveniently forget that Chizik was the top assistant on HC lists for good reason; he was stellar at Auburn and Texas. Yes, the gamble failed but that's not Pollard's fault unless you're like Hlas and Hawkeye Nation who believe that ISU isn't allowed to set high goals or have real success.
I understand what you're saying, but I'm pretty confident that Jim Tressel could've had success at Iowa State as well. Obviously, not the same level of success, but success none the less. OSU could have had their pick of the litter, they chose Jim Tressel, and it worked out very well.
Basically, the point is that we shouldn't be dismissing a coaching candidate just because their success isn't at the 1-A level.
That is exactly what I am saying. UNI got beaten like a drum against BYU. You had your chance for proof that he could play against D1 opponents. It wasn't even competitive. If Farley came to ISU it would be the same. It takes contacts and player talent to perform in the B12. Farley and Allen have none of those things.
You suppose that. You do not know that. Because you cannot know that. No one can.
We all "suppose," though. I, and a few others here, suppose that Farley can be successful at ISU. I do not know that, though. I cannot know that. No one can.
I suppose that no one can know if Farley would succeed at ISU unless he's given the chance to make it or break it in Ames.
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Did you pay attention to that game at all??? UNI was down only 10 midway through the 4th quarter against one of the best FBS teams in the country!
Beaten like a drum? They were right in that game up until the final stretch (and playing with far inferior athletes).
I agree! Almost every Hawk fan I ever met loved DM. Funny, if he were their coach they would have run him out on a rail 4 years in.
If pollard is dumb enough to hire a uni coach I will never give isu another dime of my money!!:yes::yes:
