High School Soccer Hooligans

mramseyISU

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Sounds like things got pretty wild down in Keokuk the other night. They ended up with 4 red cards in one game. It's apparently the 2nd time in 3 years they've been disqualified from the post season because of getting too many red cards. Those twitter threads are kind of wild, the players are in there blaming the refs for being out of hand. The superintendent down there apparently felt differently and cancelled the season.




 

Drew0311

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IS it the same coach as last time they could not get into the tournament? If so he needs fired today. He obviously is teaching his kids bad behavior.
 
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mramseyISU

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IS it the same coach as last time they could not get into the tournament? If so he needs fired today. He obviously is teaching his kids bad behavior.
I don't think it is but I don't think firing the guy would be out of the question either because he was the recipient of one of those 4 red cards.
 
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Good for the superintendent, I'm sure eliminating them from postseason was only going to make the behavior worse.
 

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Good for the superintendent, I'm sure eliminating them from postseason was only going to make the behavior worse.
Student accountability is at an all time low right now, so this is actually incredibly refreshing.

25-30% student body chronic absenteeism in the metro, but we'll still let you play sports because our role as a school is to educate and give you opportunities, not punish you.
 

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I have watched a lot of soccer up here in Minnesota including at the USA Cup and I have never seen a club or high school match with more than one or maybe two red cards - memory fails me a bit. But never 4 red cards.

We did show up for a game with our team of 10 year old boys and a 9 year old in the previous game got a red card just as we arrived. He was in tears, but it was a clear case of DOGSO. A tackle in the open field (of the player, not the ball) on a breakaway.

Minnesota high school soccer does have a rule that if you earn a caution, you sit for the remainder of the period. So it does force a bit of a cool down period before throwing you back into action. I don't know if Iowa has a similar rule.
 

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Before reading the article, I was assuming that all cards were given during a fight, but it looks like they were spread out. I bet it was chippy as hell. The coaches sound like their personas may have rubbed off on their players, too.

I've seen some heated games, but beat-downs bring out the worst in players. Celebrating and laughing by the winning team often results in dirty tackle retaliation that can cause serious injury. My daughter was on both ends of beat-downs throughout the years, and I would hold my breath watching her play against some girls that were clearly not above hurting someone.
 

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I have watched a lot of soccer up here in Minnesota including at the USA Cup and I have never seen a club or high school match with more than one or maybe two red cards - memory fails me a bit. But never 4 red cards.

We did show up for a game with our team of 10 year old boys and a 9 year old in the previous game got a red card just as we arrived. He was in tears, but it was a clear case of DOGSO. A tackle in the open field (of the player, not the ball) on a breakaway.

Minnesota high school soccer does have a rule that if you earn a caution, you sit for the remainder of the period. So it does force a bit of a cool down period before throwing you back into action. I don't know if Iowa has a similar rule.


My daughters club team (VSA) was a top team in Iowa and midwest. She played across the country for 7 years. Virginia, Florida, Colorado, all the midwest states. I saw one red card the whole time. I saw a second on the field next to ours in a boys game. Very rare to see them in the Club level. She didn't want to play for her high school coach so she just played on a club team. Not sure if it happens way more in high school. I would assume it does because the level is so much lower and half the team is pretty good and half kind of suck. At the top club level every girl is pretty darn good. So no real "Payback" type stuff
 

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I have watched a lot of soccer up here in Minnesota including at the USA Cup and I have never seen a club or high school match with more than one or maybe two red cards - memory fails me a bit. But never 4 red cards.

We did show up for a game with our team of 10 year old boys and a 9 year old in the previous game got a red card just as we arrived. He was in tears, but it was a clear case of DOGSO. A tackle in the open field (of the player, not the ball) on a breakaway.

Minnesota high school soccer does have a rule that if you earn a caution, you sit for the remainder of the period. So it does force a bit of a cool down period before throwing you back into action. I don't know if Iowa has a similar rule.
Not sure about Iowa, but at least when I played in Illinois, they just made you sub out for a yellow and I think it was up to the coach to determine when to put you back in. I found that out when we were losing the Catholic school by us 5-0 for the 3rd time that year and I got moved from CB to forward for the heck of it. I went in hard on a challenge and had no intention of getting the ball 30 seconds after the switch, so my coach sat me the rest of the game.
 

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I have watched a lot of soccer up here in Minnesota including at the USA Cup and I have never seen a club or high school match with more than one or maybe two red cards - memory fails me a bit. But never 4 red cards.

We did show up for a game with our team of 10 year old boys and a 9 year old in the previous game got a red card just as we arrived. He was in tears, but it was a clear case of DOGSO. A tackle in the open field (of the player, not the ball) on a breakaway.

Minnesota high school soccer does have a rule that if you earn a caution, you sit for the remainder of the period. So it does force a bit of a cool down period before throwing you back into action. I don't know if Iowa has a similar rule.
Iowa had the same rule when I played last in '06, yellow is sit out the rest of the half. Don't like the rule personally.

The refs also gave you a straight red for an undirected F bomb, which I found f****** stupid.
 

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My HS soccer coach was a raging a**hole. Halftime at one game my junior year we were getting beat bad by a school we historically dominate, he took us away from the sideline so parents couldn't hear what he said. "You're playing like a bunch of f***ing p***ies!" The next year we had a pseudo walkout due to 1 of his temper tantrums during practice, word got back to the AD and he called all the captains in to get our sides of the story. Led to a heated meeting with the team, coaches and AD that ended with me standing up and saying "Mr. Hale (AD), this clearly isn't going to change anything can we go to practice?"

Said coach got fired the next year after he got a DUI. Single car crash, he walked home, cops show up at his house at 6 AM and he still blew well over the limit.
 

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I have watched a lot of soccer up here in Minnesota including at the USA Cup and I have never seen a club or high school match with more than one or maybe two red cards - memory fails me a bit. But never 4 red cards.

We did show up for a game with our team of 10 year old boys and a 9 year old in the previous game got a red card just as we arrived. He was in tears, but it was a clear case of DOGSO. A tackle in the open field (of the player, not the ball) on a breakaway.

Minnesota high school soccer does have a rule that if you earn a caution, you sit for the remainder of the period. So it does force a bit of a cool down period before throwing you back into action. I don't know if Iowa has a similar rule.

I’m a soccer ref, I probably wouldn’t red card a 9 year old for DOGSO, I’d call it SPA and use it as a teaching opportunity. Unless the contact was really dangerous or something.
 
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