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4theCYcle

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The treatment is not a racket. Your "real solutions" comments is more of the uniformed nonsense I mentioned in an earlier post. Some of the new drugs are a life-changer for people with this. My comment on "the racket" is the pricing. Like how a drug costs X and than it's 10X a few years later.

I agree, unless people actually know the nuances behind crohns, it's tough to listen to them. We basically have an overactive immune system that doesn't know how to regulate itself and attacks certain organs by certain foods that we eat along with other stressors. Yeah, the trick is finding those foods, but that's not always easy as a long term slow inflammatory process can take years to possibly show face. Some of these meds slow the effects and make lives livable. I know of people that puke and go to the bathroom every hour because of what they eat or try to avoid. Stress can cause serious problems too. Plus, try treating this as a doctor when everyone's symptoms or triggers are different. With UC, that's a more set defined area (colon) where as crohns can attack and affect areas mouth to butt.

I thought initially my triggers were tomatoes and peppers, which would give horrific cramps and then make me puke all during the night, and then unloading everything the other way for days following (Sorry for graphics). In all actuality, I'm not 100% sure it was those. I just did an online food sensitivity test and turns out switching to almond milk from cows milk was a bad decision too.

High sensitivity - almonds, cashews, egg whites
moderate - egg yolk, milk, soft cheeses, soy, garlic, tarragon, cabbage, carrots, cauliflower, cucumber, kale, gluten/wheat, mustard, broccoli, peppers, pineapple, tomatoes, avocados, white potatoes, oranges, yogurt.

I don't think I'm completely lactose intolerant, but pretty sensitive. Which is weird, because I used to drink so much milk as a kid.

So, as ironic as some people try to lose weight, I try to keep weight on. At times, it can be a struggle.
 
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Having a tin foil hat moment and wondering if anyone knows more in depth than the typical google searched article.

I've deliberately cut intake of daily calories the last several weeks, and don't notice any lack of energy etc.

Is the recommended 2000+ calories a day a way to get people to buy bad/calorie dense food?

Diets I've seen seem to basically say to cut portions of whatever food is recommended, i.e. meat being palm sized, a handful of almonds, etc.

Just thoughts....I know everyone is different but 2400 calories seems like a LOT and I at least walk roughly 4 miles/day so I don't feel like I'm sedentary.

Just to start, I'd keep it really simple:

(1) Calories you intake from food - (2) Calories you burn from being alive - (3) Calories you burn from exercise = ?

If that equation is greater than 0, you gain weight. If it's less than 0, you lose weight. Of course, it's much, much more complicated than this as people respond to different fitness and nutrition programs differently. However, this is an easy, simple way to start. Especially for someone who is just trying to build some positive momentum. There are tools online you can find for free to estimate what item #2 above is. I'm 6'2" and 180 lbs. I burn about 2000 calories a day just being alive.

Speaking for myself, when I was in weight-loss mode, I tried to consume less than 1800 calories a day with a high-protein, low-carb focus. My body burns about that from being alive, so add on 300-600 calories lost during exercise each day and I was losing 2 lbs per week, on average. That was with a very high intensity workout program, though. I found that tracking my food with an app was very helpful, for me.
 
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Having a tin foil hat moment and wondering if anyone knows more in depth than the typical google searched article.

I've deliberately cut intake of daily calories the last several weeks, and don't notice any lack of energy etc.

Is the recommended 2000+ calories a day a way to get people to buy bad/calorie dense food?

Diets I've seen seem to basically say to cut portions of whatever food is recommended, i.e. meat being palm sized, a handful of almonds, etc.

Just thoughts....I know everyone is different but 2400 calories seems like a LOT and I at least walk roughly 4 miles/day so I don't feel like I'm sedentary.
The 2000 calorie a day diet is based upon the fact that you body uses 80 calories an hour to function. So if you do absolutely nothing each day 2000 calories is what you need to maintain your weight.
2000 calories is easy, 2 or 3 slices of pizza is probably close to 1000.
 

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The 2000 calorie a day diet is based upon the fact that you body uses 80 calories an hour to function. So if you do absolutely nothing each day 2000 calories is what you need to maintain your weight.
2000 calories is easy, 2 or 3 slices of pizza is probably close to 1000.

And that's where counting only calories gets a little tricky. The devil is in the details. It's not so much the calorie count in a slice of pizza; it's the other stuff - the grease, the fat, sodium, carbs from the crust. In the calorie counter/fitness app I have one slice of sausage pizza from Casey's is only 262 calories. Not bad. The problem is that one slice is also 12 grams of fat, 30 grams of cholesterol, and just shy of 500 mg of sodium.
 

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The 2000 calorie a day diet is based upon the fact that you body uses 80 calories an hour to function. So if you do absolutely nothing each day 2000 calories is what you need to maintain your weight.
2000 calories is easy, 2 or 3 slices of pizza is probably close to 1000.

Good info here for calories/hour burned. Not sure if I'd ever actually read that or if I did it was in article overloaded with info.

This is like so many topics where there's too much info out there to know what's right.
 

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And that's where counting only calories gets a little tricky. The devil is in the details. It's not so much the calorie count in a slice of pizza; it's the other stuff - the grease, the fat, sodium, carbs from the crust. In the calorie counter/fitness app I have one slice of sausage pizza from Casey's is only 262 calories. Not bad. The problem is that one slice is also 12 grams of fat, 30 grams of cholesterol, and just shy of 500 mg of sodium.

So true. Love me an occasional Caseys pizza but two days later I definitely feel it, vs. eating like a salmon filet that's 200 calories cooked in a pan in olive oil.

Same goes with baked carb-loaded stuff like donuts vs. eggs for breakfast.
 
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Good info here for calories/hour burned. Not sure if I'd ever actually read that or if I did it was in article overloaded with info.

This is like so many topics where there's too much info out there to know what's right.

This brings up a good point. What was really helpful for me was to know what was the right amount of protein, carbs, and fat to shoot for. This was probably the biggest lesson for me in my journey. When I was really focused on weight loss, I was shooting for the following:

> 150g protein
< 130g carbs (I tried to keep it less than 100g if I could)
< 70g of sugar (again, I tried to keep it under 40g)
< 50g of fat

this is not universal, but was a good guideline for me so I knew “how much is too much?”
 

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Hey Fanatics,

So this is it. Tomorrow is the big day. I talked to my doctor and he is thrilled to hear that I am changing my ways. I signed up for the local gym and I’m ready to kick some a**! I’m super excited that you guys are joining me.

It took me about a week to reflect and I’ve realized that this journey is more than just losing weight, looking good and feeling good. I am 26. I am engaged. Health history in my family has been far from perfect and I have never seen my parent’s in good physical shape. It was always a worry if Dad would have a heart attack. My mom’s mobility is very limited now due to arthritis in her legs and the weight she puts on them.

I repeat, I am 26.

I LOVE my parents. They are the reason I was able to go to Iowa State and the reason why I am who I am today. But, I do not want to become them. I hope that this experience will encourage a change for them, but in the end, I’m doing this for me.

No matter how any of us got to where we are today, just remember, it’s not the start, it’s the finish.

Ok, enough of me rambling. I’m planning to do intermittent fasting and with a keto-diet. I’ll send you guys a picture of the scale tomorrow morning! Good Luck Everyone!
 

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Hey Fanatics,

So this is it. Tomorrow is the big day. I talked to my doctor and he is thrilled to hear that I am changing my ways. I signed up for the local gym and I’m ready to kick some a**! I’m super excited that you guys are joining me.

It took me about a week to reflect and I’ve realized that this journey is more than just losing weight, looking good and feeling good. I am 26. I am engaged. Health history in my family has been far from perfect and I have never seen my parent’s in good physical shape. It was always a worry if Dad would have a heart attack. My mom’s mobility is very limited now due to arthritis in her legs and the weight she puts on them.

I repeat, I am 26.

I LOVE my parents. They are the reason I was able to go to Iowa State and the reason why I am who I am today. But, I do not want to become them. I hope that this experience will encourage a change for them, but in the end, I’m doing this for me.

No matter how any of us got to where we are today, just remember, it’s not the start, it’s the finish.

Ok, enough of me rambling. I’m planning to do intermittent fasting and with a keto-diet. I’ll send you guys a picture of the scale tomorrow morning! Good Luck Everyone!


u got it dog. just came back from the gym (go @ 3:48 am everyday).

it sucks but i'm down some pounds and most of all i FEEL BETTER. it sucks but get into a routine and try and stick with it. doesn't have to be 100% of the time. I will get a runza on a friday if im feeling it. i love you and you'll find what works best.
 

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And that's where counting only calories gets a little tricky. The devil is in the details. It's not so much the calorie count in a slice of pizza; it's the other stuff - the grease, the fat, sodium, carbs from the crust. In the calorie counter/fitness app I have one slice of sausage pizza from Casey's is only 262 calories. Not bad. The problem is that one slice is also 12 grams of fat, 30 grams of cholesterol, and just shy of 500 mg of sodium.
Yea, in the end if you want to eat healthy take out pizza isn't the way.
 

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Yea, in the end if you want to eat healthy take out pizza isn't the way.

Sure. It's not just pizza, though. I was just throwing that out as an example. Another good one is the peanut butter balls you see in packs of four or whatever at the grocery store. They're pushed as health items - high in protein! - and as choices go you could do worse, but they're loaded with sugar. My point was that it's not enough to just look at calorie counts.
 

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I'm travelling next week and won't have access to a cooking supplies. Any suggestions on how to stay away from junk?
 

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I agree, unless people actually know the nuances behind crohns, it's tough to listen to them. We basically have an overactive immune system that doesn't know how to regulate itself and attacks certain organs by certain foods that we eat along with other stressors. Yeah, the trick is finding those foods, but that's not always easy as a long term slow inflammatory process can take years to possibly show face. Some of these meds slow the effects and make lives livable. I know of people that puke and go to the bathroom every hour because of what they eat or try to avoid. Stress can cause serious problems too. Plus, try treating this as a doctor when everyone's symptoms or triggers are different. With UC, that's a more set defined area (colon) where as crohns can attack and affect areas mouth to butt.

I thought initially my triggers were tomatoes and peppers, which would give horrific cramps and then make me puke all during the night, and then unloading everything the other way for days following (Sorry for graphics). In all actuality, I'm not 100% sure it was those. I just did an online food sensitivity test and turns out switching to almond milk from cows milk was a bad decision too.

High sensitivity - almonds, cashews, egg whites
moderate - egg yolk, milk, soft cheeses, soy, garlic, tarragon, cabbage, carrots, cauliflower, cucumber, kale, gluten/wheat, mustard, broccoli, peppers, pineapple, tomatoes, avocados, white potatoes, oranges, yogurt.

I don't think I'm completely lactose intolerant, but pretty sensitive. Which is weird, because I used to drink so much milk as a kid.

So, as ironic as some people try to lose weight, I try to keep weight on. At times, it can be a struggle.


My Friend Shawn C's wife has Chrones and is the skinnest person ever. She explained how much food she had to eat to just be that weight. Wow is all I have to say. She said eating is hard because she has to eat so much.
 
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I'm travelling next week and won't have access to a cooking supplies. Any suggestions on how to stay away from junk?


Plan ahead. Take or plan to buy healthier snacks like fruit, string cheese, small pack of nuts or granola bar that can be in your carry-on/accessible bag in case schedule is thrown off and you need food. Scope out menus ahead if you can. Easier to pick something "better" when you're not starving/tired at the end of the day. Plan to get up a bit early or stay up a bit to do a quick workout in the hotel gyms. Some treadmill work and then if they have weights - upper body stuff would probably be ok for you right now. Just quick bicep curl/shoulder presses.

I guess it depends if this is work vs. pleasure. If the former, I'd be a little more lax to enjoy the experience more.
 
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My Friend Shawn C's wife has Chrones and is the skinnest person ever. She explained how much food she had to eat to just be that weight. Wow is all I have to say. She said eating is hard because she has to eat so much.

That's why as I go more through life, I don't judge people's sizes. People don't realize, even on the skinny end people get made fun of or are given a hard time. 2 years ago when I was going through all the process of trying to figure out what I was dealing with, I lost 20 pounds in no time and looked sickly. I struggled to keep things down. I used to go to the gym so much, worked out all the time and and thought I was a healthy 175. Turns out I wasn't, and now I try to just maintain a weight and most importantly, keep my insides at bay. I can even say I'm fortunate, it could have been worse.
 
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