Gottlieb

[CyBroncos]

Somebody picks Iowa State to be an first round upset special and people get butthurt

WEIRD

 

[Doc]

If the refs call it tight on NCCU, they'll commit 40 fouls. They're like KSU in that regard. I hate to think of it this way, but this game is heavily dependent on how it is reffed. When they beat NC State they fouled out 4 of NC State's 5 starters and shot 45 free throws. NCCU scores more of their points off of FTs than any team in tournament other than Kentucky and they give up more points off of free throws than any team in the tournament other than Manhattan. That's the thing that scares me about this game.

 

[Dingus]

It seems like everyone has Michigan State winning our region. Am I the only one that thinks we're going to be playing Virginia instead of MSU?

I get the healthy MSU love, but it does seem a bit much. The onlly bracket I filled out I picked UVA to beat MSU just because. Appling is not very inconsistent.

 

[JWIL4CY]

We are going to be playing UCLA

That would be a final four game.

 

[State43]

ISU by 12
Gottlieb can eat a bag of dicks

 

[greatshu]

Ignore him. That's how he is. He enjoys watching people worked up over his comments.

 

[CloneZone13]

Upsets are going to happen to a lot of teams, so you have to gamble in brackets. I'm certainly not offended in any way, it COULD happen. But I think Gottlieb is thinking of previous ISU teams. This year's team is much more unlikely to be upset. They've shown that ALL season! GO CLONES!

 

[State43]

After watching numerous expert NCAA specials since the announcement. Seems like a bunch of butt hurt talking heads are out to prove that the B12 is not as good as the numbers show. They seem to have a clear bias for the B10 and ACC to the point they are going against their better judgment.

 

[2forISU]

I appreciate Doug doing this, keep doubting. This team thrives when they are down in a game or someone doubts them. Love the fight in this team.

 

[jbhtexas]

His reasoning is bull ****.

He's a raging d-bag and is one of the worst "experts" in the game.

These things. It just kind of baffles me that he's been able to rise as high as he has in the college MBB "experts" world, because his basketball analysis is often not well-reasoned. Maybe he has compromising pics of some network exec...

 

[Doc]

After watching numerous expert NCAA specials since the announcement. Seems like a bunch of butt hurt talking heads are out to prove that the B12 is not as good as the numbers show. They seem to have a clear bias for the B10 and ACC to the point they are going against their better judgment.

I think a lot of it is just ISU getting what looks like the toughest 14 seed, Oklahoma getting a tough 12 seed, KSU getting Kentucky, and Kansas being without Embiid.

Throw in an already bad conference underperforming in the tourney last year and voila.

I think the B12 conference without Embiid isn't going to look that good in the tourney.

 

[HoopsTournament]

Just as irrelevant to the outcomes as every single other person who filled out a bracket.

 

[HoopsTournament]

I think a lot of it is just ISU getting what looks like the toughest 14 seed, Oklahoma getting a tough 12 seed, KSU getting Kentucky, and Kansas being without Embiid.

Throw in an already bad conference underperforming in the tourney last year and voila.

I think the B12 conference without Embiid isn't going to look that good in the tourney.

I don't understand. So if Embiid was playing, how would that help the other six teams? How does Embiid being out hurt the other six teams? Kansas is the one without Embiid, not the Big 12 Conference.

 

[CYUL8R]

I think a lot of it is just ISU getting what looks like the toughest 14 seed, Oklahoma getting a tough 12 seed, KSU getting Kentucky, and Kansas being without Embiid.

Throw in an already bad conference underperforming in the tourney last year and voila.

I think the B12 conference without Embiid isn't going to look that good in the tourney.

It's all good, when we win the whole dang thing the BIG XII will look just fine. :spinny:

 

[Cydkar]

They are the best 14 seed by far so there is some logic to it. He's also trolling a passionate fanbase. It doesn't work on non-passionate fans. He's not stupid.

 

[swarthmoreCY]

I think a lot of it is just ISU getting what looks like the toughest 14 seed, Oklahoma getting a tough 12 seed, KSU getting Kentucky, and Kansas being without Embiid.

Throw in an already bad conference underperforming in the tourney last year and voila.

I think the B12 conference without Embiid isn't going to look that good in the tourney.

The Big 12 has never been a bad conference. Do not confuse under-performing with under-seeded. If the Big 12 routinely got over-seeded like the BIG, it would be the most dominate conference in the past 15 years.

 

[Doc]

I don't understand. So if Embiid was playing, how would that help the other six teams? How does Embiid being out hurt the other six teams? Kansas is the one without Embiid, not the Big 12 Conference.

They are still 1 of 7 teams, though, and they will have more of an impact on the general perception of the conference since they are the highest seed. I agree though, if some of the other six overperform, it wouldn't matter.

 

[Doc]

The Big 12 has never been a bad conference. Do not confuse under-performing with under-seeded. If the Big 12 routinely got over-seeded like the BIG, it would be the most dominate conference in the past 15 years.

I'm only talking about last year when, other than ISU, they collectively **** the bed. That year when our conference co-champs lost to La Salle and Michigan, the 4th place team in the Big 10. They were under seeded?

 

[NobodyBeatsCy]

That would be a final four game.

You are paying attention.

 

[VeloClone]

Last night on Cyclones Tv i watched the 2000 ISU vs Okie Lite game from the big 12.....man, he was a hunch back point guard. He did have some great assists (and Tinsley and him were battling). But at the end of the game Goetlieb was shooting free throws and they said his season ft % was like 44%. Unreal.

The best play he made in the entire game was when he got into it with Fizer to try and get both of them ejected. He couldn't even do that right.