I don't know why, but I'd hadn't thought about this scenario. That Bran could see into the past and that's how we find out about the ToJ and/or Jon's parents. That makes a ton of sense.
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I don't know why, but I'd hadn't thought about this scenario. That Bran could see into the past and that's how we find out about the ToJ and/or Jon's parents. That makes a ton of sense.
I don't think so. Thoros of Myr brought back Beric Dondarrion multiple times without losing his life.
I think it might take a while to get to ToJ. It will require new characters for young Ned, Robert Baratheon, and Howland Reed (if he is in it). Can't just see them slapping that together quickly.
Maybe a necessary event. In an earlier season, when Thoros of Myr and Melisandre meet, he tells her that he had lost his faith, but when he saw a friend die, the Red God gave him the power of resurrection.
I guess you only get so many resurrections. Beric Dondarrion did give his life so that LSH could come to be. My money is on Melisandre giving her life to save Jon Snow.
Once again, just to be safe...
Beric Dondarrion, ally to the Starks and responsible for founding and leading the Brotherhood Without Banners, along with his men found Catelyn Stark floating down the river something like 3 days after her death. It turns out he learned something from all those times Thoros of Myr, the Red Priest/former drinking buddy of King Robert, resurrected him, as Beric resurrected Catelyn - at the cost of his own life. Probably because she had already been dead 3 days.
Catelyn, knowing that Ned died at King's Landing at the hands of the Lannisters, her eldest son Robb killed in a betrayal involving the Freys and Lannisters (Rains of Castamere cluing her into that), Sansa betrothed to King Joeffry/held captive by the Lannisters, Brandon and Rickon presumed dead in Theon's betrayal and sacking of Winterfell (which she probably partly blames on the Lannisters), Arya MIA, presumably dead (at the hands of the Lannisters), and not really giving two ***** about Jon Snow - basically has the attitude that everything in her life has been taken from her and she makes it her second life's ambition to get revenge on her enemies - the Lannisters, Freys, Boltons, and all their allies, and she'll kill as many innocents as it takes to get her revenge. Not to mention she basically looks like a death reject - she's not the beautiful woman she once was, neither inside nor out.
Catelyn, knowing that Ned died at King's Landing at the hands of the Lannisters, her eldest son Robb killed in a betrayal involving the Freys and Lannisters (Rains of Castamere cluing her into that), Sansa betrothed to King Joeffry/held captive by the Lannisters, Brandon and Rickon presumed dead in Theon's betrayal and sacking of Winterfell (which she probably partly blames on the Lannisters), Arya MIA, presumably dead (at the hands of the Lannisters), and not really giving two ***** about Jon Snow - basically has the attitude that everything in her life has been taken from her and she makes it her second life's ambition to get revenge on her enemies - the Lannisters, Freys, Boltons, and all their allies, and she'll kill as many innocents as it takes to get her revenge. Not to mention she basically looks like a death reject - she's not the beautiful woman she once was, neither inside nor out.
I've also read somewhere that, in ASOIAF, the longer someone is dead, the harder it is to pull their spirit back from the afterlife, and the longer they're gone, the less likely they are "themselves" when they return. I.e., LSH, on top of all that personal tragedy and betrayal she had gone through (or thought she had gone through), she was also dead and floating down the river for something like 3 days. So, 3 days of in-water decomposition as well as 3 days separate from the mortal plane, and all that tragedy - Lord Beric resurrected a monster which became LSH, and the process killed him.
As for Jon Snow, he's been dead for a matter of hours and you have an actual priestess potentially resurrecting him. This has a better chance of working out better.
I doubt it because she saw herself in winterfell as well in her flame. Betting Shireens death won't be for nothing
Weren't the Sand Snakes on the dock in Dorne? How did they appear in Kings Landing with Trystane?
I just think Thoros resurrected Beric multiple times because he's a red priest and they can do that. Beric in turn gave up his life (half-life) to another which meant his death. Kind of a different method than the priest resurrection.
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Also, I offer Alliser Thorne as sacrifice for Jon's resurrection.
Thank you for bringing this up. Trystane must have stayed behind in Dorne? That's the only thing that makes sense.
Nope. He's definitely on a boat in the scene last night. You can tell it's the cabin of a ship.
I think Obara and Nymeria hopped another ship shortly after Jaimie left and followed them there. It's possible a decent amount of time has passed between Jaimie being off the ship and Trystane's death. They likely caught up and boarded his ship in the harbor.
Dumb *** turned his back on Obara like a chump.
Okay, thanks. That's definitely what happened. Another example of innocent kids in love being killed just because of who their parents are or what their other family members have done in the past. Sucks.
I took it that he was going to join them in KL later. Otherwise, I would have thought he would have been involved with the season 5 finale and her death.
I think he was on a boat docked in Dorne waiting to travel to KL.
Maybe. He might have had some additional preparations before heading off. That actually makes more sense than them following them and killing him so far from home.
Either way he's dead as **** now. We'll see if Dorne contributes anything to the actual plot from here on out.
Correct. Thoros doesn't lose anything of himself each time he brings back Beric, but Beric does with each resurrection. He loses some memories, some humanity, etc. I believe Thoros said in the books that it's harder to do each time if it's been done over and over, too. Here's a bit more info:
http://winteriscoming.net/2016/02/06/on-game-of-thrones-resurrection-and-coming-back-wrong/
I don't think there's any definitive reason why Beric didn't survive the LSH revival, but my guess is twofold:
- He's already so weakened from being revived so many times; and
- He's not a red priest or priestess, so he doesn't have the same abilities that Thoros or another would have.
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Maybe they'll stall for time by having the Night's Watch find out that they're out of mutton.
I was thinking about something. When one of Jon's friends leaves Castle Black to round up supporters, pretty much has to be Tormund Giantsbane and other wildlings, right? But if the Wildlings come back to Castle Black and face off against Thorne and the Night's Watch, doesn't that basically mean Thorne was right all along?
