And you are wrong but nice thesis you typed out there.
Future Big 12 FB Opponents/Schedule Announced
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WVU fans do NOT consider Cincinatti a rival. That said, WVU fans are passionate and travel. We had a strong presence at UCF last weekend. At least 5000, maybe more. I was there on the 50 yard line with a row 1 seat.
Finally, after 10 years without complaint, the Big 12 adds a team that WVU fans can easily travel to the away game. And while cinn. isnt a rival, like Pitt and VT, WVU was in the same conference with them for a while, and they were good with brian kelley as their coach.
Then the Big 12 adds some western schools, with WVU's blessing (big picture), but makes WVU travel out west twice in some years, and doesnt give WVU an annual game with the team in its backyard.
Pods would've worked. The only team that would've been screwed in a pod system was Houston, assuming they got kicked east. Even then, they would still be in a pod with former aac conference foes ucf and cinn.
Finally, after 10 years without complaint, the Big 12 adds a team that WVU fans can easily travel to the away game. And while cinn. isnt a rival, like Pitt and VT, WVU was in the same conference with them for a while, and they were good with brian kelley as their coach.
Then the Big 12 adds some western schools, with WVU's blessing (big picture), but makes WVU travel out west twice in some years, and doesnt give WVU an annual game with the team in its backyard.
Pods would've worked. The only team that would've been screwed in a pod system was Houston, assuming they got kicked east. Even then, they would still be in a pod with former aac conference foes ucf and cinn.
Understand the scheduling might not be popular with WVa, but if you all leave for the ACC, money will be reasons 1, 2, and 3, not the schedule
Everybody is operating on the principle that Kansas State WANTED two protected rivals. Perhaps, just perhaps, they got the KU game and were happy with only one protected game. Didn't want to be tied down with another.
It's not like the B12 was going to FORCE them against their will to add us as a second rival even if we wanted that.
The other three protected rivals probably mutually agreed (BYU/Utah, Arizona/ASU, TCU/Baylor).
It's not like the B12 was going to FORCE them against their will to add us as a second rival even if we wanted that.
The other three protected rivals probably mutually agreed (BYU/Utah, Arizona/ASU, TCU/Baylor).
“Wanted”? I’m not sure that two would have been ALLOWED. And their first choice always would be KU.
FWIW, the opinion on the kstate board was 100 percent pissed off that a rivalry game played every year since WW I wasnt protected.
few think the schedule is good. For whatever reason, it appears the PAC teams had to be appeased. maybe they were threatening to go to the acc with cal and stanford. shrug.
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few think the schedule is good. For whatever reason, it appears the PAC teams had to be appeased. maybe they were threatening to go to the acc with cal and stanford. shrug.
Big 12 Fumbles Farmageddon With Annual Rivalry Games
The Big 12 has announced its scheduling matrix for the next four football seasons, from 2024 to 2027. In doing so, each of the 16 teams in the conference next season knows who they’ll play every year going forward. According to a press release from the conference, the Big 12 tried to maintain...
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Just curious, what would have been an ideal schedule setup for WVa? From a Mountaineer perspective.FWIW, the opinion on the kstate board was 100 percent pissed off that a rivalry game played every year since WW I wasnt protected.
few think the schedule is good. For whatever reason, it appears the PAC teams had to be appeased. maybe they were threatening to go to the acc with cal and stanford. shrug.
Big 12 Fumbles Farmageddon With Annual Rivalry Games
The Big 12 has announced its scheduling matrix for the next four football seasons, from 2024 to 2027. In doing so, each of the 16 teams in the conference next season knows who they’ll play every year going forward. According to a press release from the conference, the Big 12 tried to maintain...
Can't blame WVU for wanting a pod with Cincy, UCF and Houston. I think Colorado was probably vehemently opposed to being in a pod with KU, KSU and ISU when they have Utah and the Arizona schools in their own time zone. Can't blame them either. The B12 wouldn't be where it is now without Colorado so I'm sure that had some sway on the decision to forgo pods.
If I was WVa, I’d want ISU vs Houston. ISU is closer and they have a longer standing relationship
I don't think they should have protected any, but I can see why they would protect KU/KSU instead of ISU/KSU.
IMO the loser in the Big12 schedule were fans and promoting in stadium ticket sales for visiting fans. No reason ISU doesn't play KU and KSU every year. I would have also liked to play CU or OSU annually to keep long time rivals, but can understand if those schools would prefer other rivals. Also, would not have minded setting Cincy up as new rival for ISU,
The Big10 got it right in not having a set number of protected rivals. I feel there would have been nothing wrong with the AZ, UT and CO schools being protected rivals. With a 9 game schedule, the more protected rivals the tougher it is to balance SOS. But no reason why each school shouldn't have 2-3 protected rivals.
The Big10 got it right in not having a set number of protected rivals. I feel there would have been nothing wrong with the AZ, UT and CO schools being protected rivals. With a 9 game schedule, the more protected rivals the tougher it is to balance SOS. But no reason why each school shouldn't have 2-3 protected rivals.
There is no guarantee that it would have been Houston "kicked east" It could have very well been ISU so they could put Houston in with the other Texas schools for a convenient pod. You think there is an outcry on this board now? Just imagine the screaming if ISU was shipped east to a pod of a team they have played for 12 years and two other teams they have really never played all 600 to 1400 miles away.
As is with cinn being an annual game. There are some excellent podcasts out there explaining in detail why the big 12 schedule sucks, and i mean podcasts not by wvu people.
The B10 did not get it right when one team has three protected rivals. That's just plain stupid.
It would've been trivially easy to swap the third occurrence of ISU-WVU and KSU-Cincy to get a fourth round of ISU-KSU and WVU-Cincy. I'm surprised they didn't.
That said, the only travel difference for WVU in that scenario is swapping out a trip to Ames with a trip to Cincy once every 8 years if they keep this format, so it's not exactly a logistical nightmare they've caused. How they handle other sports will have a much bigger impact on that.
That said, the only travel difference for WVU in that scenario is swapping out a trip to Ames with a trip to Cincy once every 8 years if they keep this format, so it's not exactly a logistical nightmare they've caused. How they handle other sports will have a much bigger impact on that.
I see it as Yormark being very smart once again. The worst thing to happen to a conference is to have your CCG end up being between 2 teams that no one cares about. Keeping these "rivalries" almost assures those 2 teams will not meet in the CCG. Who wants to watch a TCU/Baylor, AZ/ASU, BYU/Utah, KU/KSU Big XII championship? No one outside of the state those teams reside. The other team combos bring in viewership from various parts of the country and even if you have 2 Texas teams, much bigger alumni and fanbases will be interested.
Thought about this for a minute. I don’t think we need any “protected rivalries”. At least, not before Iowa, Nebraska and Missouri all get frozen out of the hypothetical future super mega conference, and are looking for a home.
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Playing 9 conference games is the most important part of the new B12 schedule. While OuT is out, ISU is still guaranteed to play a pretty tough schedule. Look at 2024. We still play Iowa, KSU, KU and Utah (all potential top 25 teams). SOS matters to get into the CFP. While the B12 champion will get an automatic bid to new 12-team playoff, there is a good chance for a 2nd bid if the SOS is there. That's where playing 9 conference games could give us an edge over an ACC team that played 8 conference games.
