I think this is a fair assessment of the situation. Coaching changes are bumpy and these coaches don't likely know the other guys as well. These coaches have a history and developed relationships with these two guys. Naturally they will be more comfortable with the coaches and the coaches with them.
***Fresno State (2/9) and @ UNI (2/10) Duals***
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I'm more concerned about the FIVE losses to UNI by 1-2 points than I am about the methodology behind determining who's wrestling 165 on any given day.
You are right, the big picture is whaatters here and this is worrisome. Several of our dual losses have gone down this way. I haven't watched all of the meets, but it appears that several of the dual losses were a lot closer than the final team score would indicate. This team is so close, they just have to find a way to win those close matches. I think they are headed in the right direction.
I am a little confused here, you seem to know all about the wrestle offs, the scores , when they were scheduled,what the team feels about it , but you aren't connected ?
These 3 don't bother me that much, even any would be a great win for possible NCAA berths, but none hurt their chances since we were not favored in these
Degen vs Thomsen
Colbray vs Holschlag
Pestano vs Foster
but we needed wins by
Straw vs Ryan &
Harrington vs Isley.
I am more looking at NCAA bids.
Wrestling in West Gym is an environment that has a strong home advantage.
We are going to need to be ready at Big 12's
Degen vs Thomsen
Colbray vs Holschlag
Pestano vs Foster
but we needed wins by
Straw vs Ryan &
Harrington vs Isley.
I am more looking at NCAA bids.
Wrestling in West Gym is an environment that has a strong home advantage.
We are going to need to be ready at Big 12's
Thanks for moving this on Buf. I am with you. I was expecting a win from Colbray after his run of late. If he could open his offense instead of winning in OT he can be very very good. I think he will keep improving.
He lost to the same guy 2-9 earlier this season so just making it close was a big step in the right direction
Your right.
To be clear, I didn't say he didn't improve. I was just saying that if/when he opens it up he will be lights out.
Oh Jesus, are you kidding me? No I am not connected to this team any more than anyone else that has an opinion or scores or anything else. Don't be confused, it's simple bud. I picked up the information I have from asking people that do know, reading other posts and following on Twitter. And when did I say I knew how the team feels about anything? I said I can guarantee that if there is perceived favoritism they are talking about it. You don't have to be connected to anyone or anything to know this. It happens in places of employment, on sports teams everywhere and in families. It is a part of life. By the logic of people like you, then every person that has questioned why one kid got a wrestle off when that didn't seem to be the precedent set at other weights is "connected" to the team. That's BS. It was a weird decision--lots of people agree on that-- and those of us looking for an explanation mentioned what a lot of people were thinking. Of course there is favoritism and of course there is nepotism at work everywhere in the world. Everywhere. To think that the ISU wrestling room is immune to it is just plain ignorant.
What do you think Straw's chances are of getting an automatic bid? I don't really understand how all of that works.
I believe I read here or Dresser said in a press conference that Colbray was sick all week too. That may have affected his performance. I think he will peak at the right time.
Slightly better than zero but not much greater than that. Even if he beat Kemerer on Sunday it wouldn't be a sure thing that he'd show up in the coaches panel high enough to make the allocations cut.
Harrington one I guess was the one that really took me. I know he was trying to go straight for the win but I thought he could have taken it in SV if he had ridden him out.
Good point about him not doing well on top. From what I saw and what was written it appeared to be an intentional release.
There was a restart at 0:22 left in the match and Harrington did an optional start so just gave up the point to make it 4-3. He was looking over towards the bench when he did it so I'm not sure if it was his idea or the coaches.
That's kinda why it was somewhat of a take back for me. With :22 I thought he had a better chance of riding him out vs getting a take down.
I agree with your assessment of most the losses.
I do think that the Colbray loss hurt his chances. He wasn't favored, but I think a win would have gone a long way in getting a possible allocation as he is 33 in coaches poll and 23 in RPI. A win and he would have jumped up in the coaches poll to earn a likely allocation. With the loss, I think the only chance of gaining an allocation is a win against Wilke. His weight class is one of the deepest in the Big12, but will likely only have 3 to 5 allocations and there are 9 or 10 solid wrestlers. This weight will be interesting to see the seeding as he has wins against 2 of the top 4 wrestlers at this weight. Either way, he's going to have to wrestle his tail off and beat someone who's likely earned an allocation!
I agree that a win by Colbray would have probably earned him a bid. Wins over Smith, Rotert and Holschlag would be hard to ignore.
I was just thinking (Maybe it was hoping) that a win by Straw and Harrington would have got them enough of a boost to get them farther up the coaches ranking to get a berth, but losses to guys (Isley & Ryan) in a similiar positions (probably were a little behind our guys) isn't going to help their causes.
We as a team need Big 12 berths by anyone and are going to have to go steal some. I think we have a fair amount of guys in the 27-37 rankings. (They will be just in or just out depending on how they do at Big 12s)
