Former UNI guard Nate Heise taking visit to Ames Monday (committed)
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Definitely not
I know he's listed as a guard but he's really more of a forward 3/4 type.
Not necessarily with NIL.
With the right sized check and potential for playing time, maybe both Hadley and Heise make sense. TJ has proven one thing over his first 3 years, the best players play! Whether that is true freshman like Lipsey or Momcilovic. Or a transfer from Denver named Rob Jones.
When he was in with 3 guards his offensive role didn’t change. Normally and they avoided matching him with a beast.
I am sure the analytic folks can give a more precise mpg. But Milan had to play more than 5 mpg at the 4. Tre King only play 23mpg. And the combination of Rob Jones & Ward played 38mpg. So obviously Milan had to play the 4/5 spot a lot of those 19 mpg.
When Watson played his 10mpg, was he a 3 or a 4? I think we would be splitting hairs due to how positions blur (aka Momcilovic is a 3/4, Watson is a 3/4 while Tre King is more a 4/5).
It’s at least that, as he could have been at the 4 when Pav was in too.
I don’t think it’s negative if he’s getting 15+ more minutes per game at the 4
He’s not less mobile than King, so on defense you’re getting better perimeter defense at the 3 and 4 for worse post defense at the 4
On offense, you’re pulling out the opposing 4 better, and making Milan have positionally a better handle/quickness for driving, but do lose some of his posting up smaller guys offense
If Hadley is the 3, he’s a better rebounder than Milan was at that spot, offsetting losing King’s rebounding
Don’t feel like we have enough minutes to offer to get them both. Honestly, I’m surprised we had interest from anyone other than true interior players. The 1-3 positions seem pretty set. Only question really is just how small TJ is wanting to go for the 4.
Less than 5 minutes a game over the course of the season for that specific group. But a slightly disproportionate number of those minutes came in conference play onward (131 minutes from 1/6 on), and now that I'm at home I looked at the numbers with Pav included, which adds another 42 minutes. That's a bit over 7 minutes a game with MM at the 4, once conference play hit. Not a ton, but not nothing considering the limitation on guard depth to be able to push MM to the 4.
When I'm looking at lineups, I'm considering Watson the 4 and MM the 3. You're right that it's kind of blurry. Offensively, MM is clearly the 3 when both he and Watson are in. Defensively it probably depends on matchups. But on net, Watson is more of the 4 than MM is. If Hadley were to come and play in lineups alongside MM, I think that it would be very blurry which is the 3 and which is the 4.
Don’t know why we get so caught up on the archaic positions of 1,2 3,4,5. TJ and staff will simply put out lineups that can defend, score and rebound well enough. Might be 1,1,3,3,4. Might be 1,3,3,5,5… ect.
Hadley is said to be a natural 4 that can play the 3 so Heise and his minutes aren't related.
As of now we have Jackson and Rock at the 5. Would feel a lot better if we added a 3rd (kyle). Watson and for now Momcilovic available at the 4. Could definitely use 2 guys that can log minutes here (Hadley and again Kyle). Definitely need bodies to fill minutes. Hadley needed at the 4 is what IMO makes their minutes unrelated.
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