DM REG article on CMC and suspensions
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Absolutely essential. I always got the impression Rhoads was pretty strict too. Was that not the case? Not sure what to read into this article other than a player got disciplined.
Good 4 Coach Campbell to lay down the law..............Just like Netten said we only have a few rules...........Most important thing this year is to get this team er squad to all pull together and stop making stupid idiotic mental errors that help the opposing teams beat us.
Is it time for a football victory...Oh yes ....yes....YES it is.....................................
Is it time for a football victory...Oh yes ....yes....YES it is.....................................
Rhoads was strict too which is good but the problem was we lacked depth so much that if we suspended one of our starters, we had literally nobody to back them up that is near the caliber. Hopefully Campbell continues reeling in decent recruits that can step up when our high profile players screw up.
I think Rhoads was strong on discipline, but I don't think he "screened" guys as much as Campbell's staff will do during the recruiting process.
A kid like Rodney Coe is a good example, Rhoads was willing to take a risk on Coe and his off-field behaviors. Sometimes things work out, other times they don't. Not sure Campbell would bring Coe to ISU in the first place.
A kid like Rodney Coe is a good example, Rhoads was willing to take a risk on Coe and his off-field behaviors. Sometimes things work out, other times they don't. Not sure Campbell would bring Coe to ISU in the first place.
I think CPR was fairly strict the problem from what I've heard is that bad seeds were allowed to hang around the program far to long which became toxic at times..But to be fair it's hard to just kick a kid out you wanna give them opportunity to straighten things out.. WTS..It is imperative CMC and staff set the tone of the program early otherwise u will lose the team. Appears like CMC is doing just that and good.
Coe is an example where Paul let him do pretty much whatever he wanted until he was forced to finally do something. Paul didn't lack discipline of players, it just depended which player you were.
For something that is not supposed to be discussed about a student athlete, Randy is doing a lot of discussing. Always hard to tell if he heard something or went to his usual go-to, just make it up.
Not to be too cynical here, but suspending him this year is a no-brainer. It's 3-4+ years from now when CMC has his recruits in here and maybe the team is struggling. I would bet that CPR was strict right off the bat too. But when you need wins, you need players and it's easier to look the other way.
Agree. Rhoads needed Coe that year- we had no depth on DL.
But that is where I hope CMC teams are different. I hope we recruit #'s at all positions. I always felt we under-recruited DL from a #'s standpoint. The other issue is attrition. Like the Randy Peterson article mentions in the Netton/Seely class only 6 of 21 guys remain. That can't happen- those seniors have to be the core of the team.
Attrition issues happen in a lot of programs, but I hope that is where CMC's staffs recruitment of more players from the upper midwest helps. Culturally, IMO they are a better fit in Ames than kids from Texas and Florida.
I get where you're coming from but I really don't think this is the case with Campbell. I truly think this guy 100% believes in his process and won't let anyone get away with violating it. Say what you want about his coaching, but its hard to deny that this guy is truly genuine. I think that's a big reason why he has such great success in recruiting kids. He seems to be a breath of fresh air in a landscape this is constantly trying to create shortcuts just to win.
I have seen CMC suspend players year 3-4 that were important. Don't agree but understand the logic.
Campbell in year 1 wouldn't take the risk on Coe. I'm not sure Rhoads would have either. In Year 6, with his job on the line, Campbell might take a risk just like Rhoads did with Coe.
But he is dealing perfectly with this crap for Year 1. I am sure he'll give Philbert a second chance if he deserves it.
Nobody saves their job by losing the right way, that's for sure. We want the discipline and the wins...
I can't come to the idea that CMC would cut corners even if his job was on the line. It would be like him not believing in himself.
I don't think Rhoads was actually all that strict in hindsight. Guys like David Sims, Jacob Latimer, Albert Gary (and Devondrick Nealy and whoever the third party was), David Irving the first time, Devlyn Cousin...I feel like PJ Harris was the only guy Rhoads booted that gave him any choice.
