NORM PARKER said:
Yeah, real reserved right there Norm. Again, as I said earlier, Norm likes to talk and you can't ever take him too seriously.
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Yeah, real reserved right there Norm. Again, as I said earlier, Norm likes to talk and you can't ever take him too seriously.
Wrong, the 09 Iowa line is one of the deepest in the Ferentz era, and though it may not be deeper than the 08 line, it probably has more depth than any other line Ferentz has coached (especially at OG). Plus those guys that provided depth last season will grow and improve in the offseason to become veteran starters. Look back at the best Iowa OL's, talent tends to be less important than experience, and experience is something that th 09 OL has plenty of. The projected starters after spring will likely look like this:
LT - Bulaga (Jr.)/Reiff (RS FR)
LG - Vandervelde (Jr.)/Richardson(SR.)/Haganman(JR.)
C - Eubanks (Sr.)/Koeppel(Jr.)
RG - The winner of this competition - Doering (SR.)/Kuempal (SR.)/Gettis (SO)
RT - Calloway (SR.)/Zusevics (SO)
The only place where our depth would be in question is at T (and that was the same last season), our OG and C positions are very solid throughout the 2 deeps and competition will push each starter to perform at their very best. The only position that concerns me on the OL is C, if Eubanks/Koeppel can step up and play that position soundly this will be a fantastic OL.
The runningback was Hawkeye legend, Sam Brownlee. By the time Iowa got to him on the depth chart, they had pretty much given up on running the ball and just let Tate take control.
Iowa is VERY deep at OL. But it remains to be seen if they have a C/G combo that can play near the level of Bruggeman/Olsen. Quantity does not equal quality.
Way to avoid your error.....anyway, Norm is one of the best defensive coordinators in the nation and my basic point was I have NO worries about our 09 defense.
I am far more worried about Stanzi's development and our WR's, which of course aren't being helped out by your boy DJK missing team meetings and workout sessions. Personally I hope DJK sits throughout 09 if he doesn't pull his head out of his butt, it is exactly the kind of attitude that he seems to be showing this spring that ruined the 06 and 07 seasons, and I don't want to see that get back into this team.
Yeah, there's a great idea, let's have our leading receiver and Stanzi's favorite target sit out the season. Brilliant!
I looked up Iowa's 2004 record -- 10-2 with NO RUNNING GAME.
Okay, so much for the Iowa love fest:wink:. I still can't wait until Rhoads and Co. kick Hawk butt Sept. 12
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"Can" is the optimum word there.
By your reasoning, every iowa back (in iowa's exceptional line years) should lead the conference, be in contention for AA honors, etc.
It doesn't matter. I don't think either of us is saying you can have one without the other. A great line can make a decent back look good, and a great back can excel in spite of an iffy line.
I'm not applying this arguement to QB's. I agree that it is near impossible for a QB to excel without at least adequate line play.
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I don't give a flying **** who Stanzi's favorite target is, if DJK thinks he can just half *** his way through practice and keep his starting spot he doesn't deserve to see the field. DJK isn't a #1 WR as it is right now, the guy is wayyyy too inconsistent. DJK has shown flashes of greatness, but he'll never be more than a WR#2/Slot WR if he doesn't work hard to improve. We know how much the Iowa coaches like guys that work hard, McNutt has shown he is willing to do just that, and so has Stross with the way he has worked through his injuries, I wouldn't be surprised to see DJK start the season #3 on the depth chart if his attitude problems keep up.
Not to mention the fact that Iowa has an extremely talented freshmen coming in by the name of Keenan Davis - I expect that he will see the field in 09. To what capacity I don't know, but he definitely has the talent to see the field as a freshmen.
Not to mention the fact that Iowa has an extremely talented freshmen coming in by the name of Keenan Davis - I expect that he will see the field in 09. To what capacity I don't know, but he definitely has the talent to see the field as a freshmen.
Answer me this, do you think Fred Russell's success was due to his talents/abilities or the 5 NFL bulldozers in front of him?
What happened when Russell went down, even thought they had those bulldozers?
And Russells stats I believe aren't as good as Greene's, and I readily admit that line was f'ing spectacular. Better than last years.
BTW - I edited my earlier post to more or less agree with some of your points.
I don't care what number is next to his name on the depth chart. If he's on the field, Stanzi will find him. Towards the end of the season Stanzi's safety blanket wasn't the TE anymore, it was DJK.
Wait, I can see it now...KOK to Stanzi, "Now I know DJK's wide open, but don't throw it to him, he doesn't work hard enough at practice."
That was quite a few years ago, but I don't remember Russell ever being injured during the Orange Bowl season...? If he did go down...wasn't he replaced by Jermelle Lewis, who did really well too?
DJK -
You're missing the point entirely. If a player thinks they can "go through the motions" in practice and get away with it, other players start to think that is OK. Iowa has never had spectacular WR's and we can get by without DJK if his work ethic doesn't improve. A lack of work ethic and a sense of "entitlement" were credited with greatly diminished the success of the 06 and 07 squads, and the coaches won't take that kind of stuff lightly anymore. I agree with you that DJK is Stanzi's favorite WR, but if DJK doesn't realize how important it is that he needs to lead by example, I'm sure Stanzi understands as a team leader that he can develop chemistry with another WR#1, and from what I'm hearing from practice, Stanzi and McNutt have developed quite a connection.
You're missing the point entirely. If a player thinks they can "go through the motions" in practice and get away with it, other players start to think that is OK. Iowa has never had spectacular WR's and we can get by without DJK if his work ethic doesn't improve. A lack of work ethic and a sense of "entitlement" were credited with greatly diminished the success of the 06 and 07 squads, and the coaches won't take that kind of stuff lightly anymore. I agree with you that DJK is Stanzi's favorite WR, but if DJK doesn't realize how important it is that he needs to lead by example, I'm sure Stanzi understands as a team leader that he can develop chemistry with another WR#1, and from what I'm hearing from practice, Stanzi and McNutt have developed quite a connection.
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Great comeback.
Like DaddyMac said, it's great that two Hawk fans are slugging it out on a Cyclone message board.:biggrin:
Oh come on DJK, he went down in the ISU game. That's why you guys lost, remember? God knows that's all I heard the remainder of the year.
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Lewis came in and as I recall, was rather non-descript in the 2nd half. For whatever reason - iowa just went away from the run game even though they still held the lead - even as ISU was mounting the comeback. That decision probably DID lose the game for them. They also brought in Greiving for a bit - and that's when ISU got the safety.
Oh man, that was my freshman year at ISU. I was in Iowa City that night and by the second half, thought Iowa had the game locked up so I headed to the bar. I never have and never will watch the second half to that game.
This year they might even get a Jan. 2 bowl game! Or Jan. 3! Hell, Jan. 10 isn't out of the question. Maybe even Feb. 1!
CycloneErik
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What he was getting at was wanting DJK to put the team ahead of himself instead of vice versa. I would think that every team would want that, instead of making allowances based on talent.
Wait, I can see it now...KOK to Stanzi, "Now I know DJK's wide open, but don't throw it to him, he doesn't work hard enough at practice."[/QUOTE]
What are we talkin' 'bout? Practice? We talkin' practice...not the game...practice. I mean, what are we talkin' 'bout? Practice? I know its funny, its funny to me too but we talkin' 'bout practice...
What are we talkin' 'bout? Practice? We talkin' practice...not the game...practice. I mean, what are we talkin' 'bout? Practice? I know its funny, its funny to me too but we talkin' 'bout practice...
