DeAndre Kane signs with Iowa State

[Spam]

I truely would rather get transfers from D1 schools than JUCO transfers.

Say no to Jamal Tinsleys?

Take quality players wherever they are- high school, prep schools, 4 year colleges or JUCOS.

 

[Clones21]

Say no to Jamal Tinsleys?

Take quality players wherever they are- high school, prep schools, 4 year colleges or JUCOS.

I agree with taking good talent from wherever, but I perfer D1 transfers because they have played in an actual D1 game. Fred seems to be good at picking them up as well.

 

[IAStubborn]

Lord, seriously, you must understand this.

First, the guy wants to coach. And I am sure that he has advancement aspirations.

In order to advance in his profession he has to have success. You have to have players to win. Recruiting, especially when you just have them for two years, is lifeblood. You can't have kids thinking you won't have their back.

But, again not wanting to be a juco coach in indianola, iowa forever, you aren't going to **** all over the coach at one of the two top 6 programs in your state. Especially one with the connections that a Fred Hoiberg has.

Come on it isn't that complicated. Coaches all over the country will stand up for their players, but they aren't going to limit their advancement opportunities for anyone.

Lord, seriously. You are the one not understanding. If you dont think that his comments didnt effect his relations with Fred well I guess I would ask you how you would judge a colleague that openly slanders you to the press? That isn't defending a player that is launching an attack.

 

[Yellow Snow]

Lord, seriously. You are the one not understanding. If you dont think that his comments didnt effect his relations with Fred well I guess I would ask you how you would judge a colleague that openly slanders you to the press? That isn't defending a player that is launching an attack.

Do we know it was slander? All I've got to go on is a guy on here with "inside info" he can't disclose.

 

[IAStubborn]

Do we know it was slander? All I've got to go on is a guy on here with "inside info" he can't disclose.

Yes we know it was slander because it is not possible to pull a signed LOI without losing that scholly. Fred could not pull it for Kane just because kane was better. Only way is if he did not become eligible or some other term. Just kicking him off the team isnt enough he would still get the scholly. Barring a waiver his career is over (either by ncaa for a 6th year or by NLI steering committee to not have to sit out). Something happenned and it wasn't Kane.

 

[megamanxzero35]

Yes we know it was slander because it is not possible to pull a signed LOI without losing that scholly. Fred could not pull it for Kane just because kane was better. Only way is if he did not become eligible or some other term. Just kicking him off the team isnt enough he would still get the scholly. Barring a waiver his career is over (either by ncaa for a 6th year or by NLI steering committee to not have to sit out). Something happenned and it wasn't Kane.

Yeah, I don't know why being hating on you. You might not be making your point clear enough or something but what you are saying is 100% accurate. Once a JUCO or high school prospect is signed, we can't revoke their scholarship and use it for someone else. For whatever reason, something happened or is wrong on Amardi's end for him to make it to campus. Because of that, his scholarship opened up. I'm guessing it was known for awhile and Hoiberg was just going to sit at 12 scholarships next season until Kane became available.

The IHCC coach is probably protecting his player from embarrassment. The only relationship this might affect is Iowa State and Indian Hills because Hoiberg might be ticked he was thrown under the bus unfairly.

 

[Cy$]

Yes we know it was slander because it is not possible to pull a signed LOI without losing that scholly. Fred could not pull it for Kane just because kane was better. Only way is if he did not become eligible or some other term. Just kicking him off the team isnt enough he would still get the scholly. Barring a waiver his career is over (either by ncaa for a 6th year or by NLI steering committee to not have to sit out). Something happenned and it wasn't Kane.

what do you know, somebody that gets it.

 

[Cydkar]

I'm going to bet that it isn't slander.

 

[nallen34]

DeAndre Kane turns 24 tomorrow. Wow!

In high school he played 4 years at Schenley High in Pittsburgh with DeJuan Blair(current Spurs/former Pitt player) DeJuan Blair Stats, News, Videos, Highlights, Pictures, Bio - San Antonio Spurs - ESPN and D.J. Kennedy (former Cavs/St. Johns player) D.J. Kennedy Stats - ESPN . Anyways in his 4 year high school career he went 76-0! He was originally a class of 2008 prospect. Here are his 2008 profiles:

Deandre Kane - Yahoo! Sports
DeAndre Kane - Basketball Recruiting - Player Profiles - ESPN

He didn't academically qualify out of high school so he had to go to a prep school. He went to The Patterson School in Lenoir, North Carolina playing alongside Hassan Whiteside(former Kings/Marshall player) Hassan Whiteside Stats, Bio - ESPN, where he went 34-2 and was ranked #1 in prep school rankings. Here are his 2009 profiles:

DeAndre Kane - Yahoo! Sports
DeAndre Kane - Basketball Recruiting - Player Profiles - ESPN

Then for the 2009-10 season he was a partial academic qualifier. That's why he had to red-shirt his first season at Marshall, and also why he is coming to Iowa State as a 24 year old RS/Sr.

 

[IAStubborn]

I'm going to bet that it isn't slander.

So Fred can do something no other division one coach can do in cutting someone that has signed a LOI JUST to get a better player? He could pull other schollies up until July 1st but not that one. Please give your rationale on how you think the indian hills coach could of been accurate. There are a lot of unknowns but that isnt one of them.

 

[Spam]

A reply to this:

I'm going to bet that it isn't slander.

is this?????:

So Fred can do something no other division one coach can do in cutting someone that has signed a LOI JUST to get a better player? He could pull other schollies up until July 1st but not that one. Please give your rationale on how you think the indian hills coach could of been accurate. There are a lot of unknowns but that isnt one of them.

The CF website must not be functioning on my laptop.

 

[RustShack]

If a player is afraid to come here because "if what Fred did to Amardi", then odds are said player isn't good enough to be here in the first place. We are after a lot of good recruits, and none of them will be afraid to come here because they aren't good enough to make the team.

 

[IAStubborn]

A reply to this:



is this?????:



The CF website must not be functioning on my laptop.

Yes. Am I missing something?

 

[CarolinaCy]

Yes. Am I missing something?

I think Cydkar is implying that since the IHCC coach's comments were in print means that it would technically be considered libel and not slander. However, when the coach made those comments, I'm sure they were just spoken comments to a reporter over the phone or something, so it would actually be slander (if what he said isn't true). The fact that it later appeared in print is irrelevant.

 

[IAStubborn]

I think Cydkar is implying that since the IHCC coach's comments were in print means that it would technically be considered libel and not slander. However, when the coach made those comments, I'm sure they were just spoken comments to a reporter over the phone or something, so it would actually be slander (if what he said isn't true). The fact that it later appeared in print is irrelevant.

Got it.

 

[Cydkar]

So Fred can do something no other division one coach can do in cutting someone that has signed a LOI JUST to get a better player? He could pull other schollies up until July 1st but not that one. Please give your rationale on how you think the indian hills coach could of been accurate. There are a lot of unknowns but that isnt one of them.

I'm going to bet that it isn't slander.

 

[Gravy79]

If a player is afraid to come here because "if what Fred did to Amardi", then odds are said player isn't good enough to be here in the first place. We are after a lot of good recruits, and none of them will be afraid to come here because they aren't good enough to make the team.

You are mistaken. It's not be because he is not good enough that he is not coming here. He had already signed. They can't let him go unless something happened.

 

[peteypie]

Can't we keep this thread about Kane? And possibly keep this argument in the Armardi eligibility thread?

 

[clone4life82]

Can't we keep this thread about Kane? And possibly keep this argument in the Armardi eligibility thread?

Evidently not....:skeptical:

 

[BigBake]

So Fred can do something no other division one coach can do in cutting someone that has signed a LOI JUST to get a better player? He could pull other schollies up until July 1st but not that one. Please give your rationale on how you think the indian hills coach could of been accurate. There are a lot of unknowns but that isnt one of them.

You're making a large assumption that Fred dumped Armadi for Kane. A very very large assumption. It's just as likely something happened on Armadi's end and we released him from his LOI a while back and went after Kane knowing we had a scholly that would be open shortly.

What is for sure is that none of us were in that room on listening on the phone to the convo so we won't know for 100% sure what happened.