DC Extended Universe
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It's not just the comics. Didn't they pretty much state in WW that Trevor was long dead? WW was set in present day (WWI/Steve Trevor was a flashback), and Batman's gift of the photo, along with WW's reply of "thank you for bringing him back to me" seems really definitive to me. Trevor's dead.
Couple of things this could be:
* Part of the ret-con of the DCEU. By re-introducing Steve Trevor it's a way to ease the audience to accept a new Batman when Affleck gets replaced.
* He could be a "Jiminy Cricket"-type of conscience, where he interacts with Diana without actually being present.
* Or he's just alive and was preserved someway. It wouldn't be any different from Bucky Barnes/Winter Soldier - which unfortunately would appear like they were stealing from Marvel. That being said, he doesn't look like he's 80 years old, so something happened to make him not age that much.
No matter what it is, I'm still on board as long as Patty Jenkins is in the directors chair. She has the best property in the DCEU right now and has been really smart with her twitter postings to keep fans & audiences interested in WW.
* Part of the ret-con of the DCEU. By re-introducing Steve Trevor it's a way to ease the audience to accept a new Batman when Affleck gets replaced.
* He could be a "Jiminy Cricket"-type of conscience, where he interacts with Diana without actually being present.
* Or he's just alive and was preserved someway. It wouldn't be any different from Bucky Barnes/Winter Soldier - which unfortunately would appear like they were stealing from Marvel. That being said, he doesn't look like he's 80 years old, so something happened to make him not age that much.
No matter what it is, I'm still on board as long as Patty Jenkins is in the directors chair. She has the best property in the DCEU right now and has been really smart with her twitter postings to keep fans & audiences interested in WW.
Both of these options are kind of...dumb. Like you said, if he's somehow preserved without her knowing it, it's a straight up Winter Soldier ripoff. If he's just a figment of her imagination it's just a dumb way to keep Chris Pine in the movie.
Like Harimad said, he was clearly written as dead in the first one. If nothing else this is just another example that there is no Kevin Feige working the puppet master strings for DC and there is no long term vision. I mean the guy was clearly dead and it takes 1 movie to have to retcon that?
So, I just actually finished up Krypton yesterday, which ended up being pretty decently actually. Coming into it, I had pretty low expectations until I read around and found out that most people were actually really digging the series who were watching it. Its only 10 episodes, so that is nice. So, while I'm maybe not over the moon about it, it did surpass my expectations. In general, it started out strong, lulled me to sleep a few times in the middle, then finished off pretty strong in the end. The special effects, sets and costuming were really great at times, but pretty lackluster and below-the-mark at other times. How they played out Brainiac as the villain I thought was pretty good, especially towards the end. For anyone wondering if this connects at all to the movie universe, the answer is no. It is definitely its own thing, universe, and timeline. With all this said, for anyone who really loves Superman or just looking for a pretty good Superhero-type show, I'd recommend. For anyone who just has a burning hatred for the whole premise of another prequel superhero show without the actual superhero (I'm looking at you Gotham and Smallville), it may not fully win you over in the end. Comparing it to its pears, it is definitely better than Gotham, but since I haven't seen Smallville, I can't compare it.
- The Punisher (Season 1)
- The Flash (Season 1)
- Daredevil (Season 2)
- Daredevil (Season 1)
- Agents of Shield (Season 4)
- Arrow (Season 2)
- Arrow (Season 1)
- The Gifted (Season 1)
- Legion (Season 1)
- Arrow (Season 5)
- The Flash (Season 2)
- Supergirl (Season 1)
- Jessica Jones (Season 1)
- Supergirl (Season 2)
- Luke Cage (Season 1)
- Agents of Shield (Season 2)
- Agent Carter (Season 1)
- The Tick (Season 1)
- Jessica Jones (Season 2)
- Krypton (Season 1)
- Runaways (Season 1)
- Gotham (Season 1)
- The Flash (Season 3)
- Powerless (Season 1)
- Agents of Shield (Season 1)
- Agents of Shield (Season 3)
- Agent Carter (Season 2)
- Gotham (Season 2)
- Iron Fist (Season 1)
- Preacher (Season 1)
- Arrow (Season 3)
- Constantine (Season 1)
- Arrow (Season 4)
- Legends of Tomorrow (Season 1)
- Legends of Tomorrow (Season 2)
- Inhumans (Season 1)
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Oh yeah, thought I'd add that I've moved on to watching Black Lightning: Season 1 on Netflix and am one episode in. I'll say this about what I've seen so far. Black Lighting's suit and powers are SUPER cheesey and stupid looking, but other than that, I'm digging it so far. I like the perspective and that it is something different.
Patty Jenkins has published another image from Wonder Woman 1984, our first look at Kristen Wiig as Barbara Minerva (Cheetah):
Eh, still doesn't sell me yet on Wiig. We'll see though. I trust Patty Jenkins at this point.
These are pretty amazing pics of Brenton Thwaites as Robin the new upcoming Teen Titans show. Wowsers, that costume is legit. In fact, if it truly looks that way, imagine having that costume in a movie.
https://screenrant.com/titans-robin-costume-images-brenton-thwaites/
https://screenrant.com/titans-robin-costume-images-brenton-thwaites/
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It sounds like the DC streaming service will be called “DC Universe” and along with original programming like Doom Patrol & Titans it will also have the library of older TV shows (like Linda Carters “Wonder Woman”) and also older DC films, such as the Tim Burton “Batman” films and Christopher Reeves “Superman” films. Another perk along with this subscription is access to DCs library of digital comics. Here’s the promo video about the program:
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/nigh...et-with-dc-about-playing-****-grayson-a161821
Lewis Tan potentially as Nightwing?? I'm in.
Lewis Tan potentially as Nightwing?? I'm in.
(Non-Spoilery) So, I actually finished Black Lightning yesterday, and while I was kind of into the series at first, it really turned out to be very very meh. Cress Williams as Black Lightning is by far the best part of the series as he oozes charisma, but most the other characters ended up being mediocre to absolutely horrible. One of the villains, Tobias Whale was pretty decent, whereas the other villain Proctor was one of the most on-the-nose ridiculous characters I've ever seen (they pretty much intentionally try to turn him into Trump). The series also really builds up his family as a family of superheroes, especially his daughter who is Thunder. However, she turned into one of those characters I absolutely cringed every time she was on screen.
The series in general suffered from too many cheesy tropes and blatantly apparent on-the-nose social agendas, which Thunder unfortunately was at the center of most of the worst stuff. However, with some of those agendas, I will say there were times they did hit organically well and drew me in, but for every one of those, they seemed to force two other ones someplace else to push you back out. Lastly, I'll be the first to admit one superficial thing I really struggled with the entire time was how much I did NOT like the costumes, which only fed into the cheesiness of the characters and story. Truthfully, changing those alone might have made everything else not seem quite to bad.
In the end, I'm tending to feel like all these CW shows are somewhat getting worse, cheesier, and falling into all the boring tropes more and more as we go here. Whether true or not, the writing seems to just be getting lazier and lazier or they are simply just running out of ideas. Its like they just copy and paste the same template over and over again. Regardless, I'm a shill, so that is why they still have me and probably will always will have me, but that doesn't take away the fact that some of these series almost end of feeling like work to watch. This was one of those. At least it still had a few moments in there that were really good and I really liked. Most of them centered around Alexander Pierce (Black Lighting), because again, I really liked him in the role.
With all that said, I've updated my Superhero TV rankings to include it.
The series in general suffered from too many cheesy tropes and blatantly apparent on-the-nose social agendas, which Thunder unfortunately was at the center of most of the worst stuff. However, with some of those agendas, I will say there were times they did hit organically well and drew me in, but for every one of those, they seemed to force two other ones someplace else to push you back out. Lastly, I'll be the first to admit one superficial thing I really struggled with the entire time was how much I did NOT like the costumes, which only fed into the cheesiness of the characters and story. Truthfully, changing those alone might have made everything else not seem quite to bad.
In the end, I'm tending to feel like all these CW shows are somewhat getting worse, cheesier, and falling into all the boring tropes more and more as we go here. Whether true or not, the writing seems to just be getting lazier and lazier or they are simply just running out of ideas. Its like they just copy and paste the same template over and over again. Regardless, I'm a shill, so that is why they still have me and probably will always will have me, but that doesn't take away the fact that some of these series almost end of feeling like work to watch. This was one of those. At least it still had a few moments in there that were really good and I really liked. Most of them centered around Alexander Pierce (Black Lighting), because again, I really liked him in the role.
With all that said, I've updated my Superhero TV rankings to include it.
- The Punisher (Season 1)
- The Flash (Season 1)
- Daredevil (Season 2)
- Daredevil (Season 1)
- Agents of Shield (Season 4)
- Arrow (Season 2)
- Arrow (Season 1)
- The Gifted (Season 1)
- Legion (Season 1)
- Arrow (Season 5)
- The Flash (Season 2)
- Supergirl (Season 1)
- Jessica Jones (Season 1)
- Supergirl (Season 2)
- Luke Cage (Season 1)
- Agents of Shield (Season 2)
- Agent Carter (Season 1)
- The Tick (Season 1)
- Jessica Jones (Season 2)
- Krypton (Season 1)
- Runaways (Season 1)
- Gotham (Season 1)
- The Flash (Season 3)
- Powerless (Season 1)
- Agents of Shield (Season 1)
- Agents of Shield (Season 3)
- Agent Carter (Season 2)
- Gotham (Season 2)
- Iron Fist (Season 1)
- Preacher (Season 1)
- Arrow (Season 3)
- Constantine (Season 1)
- Black Lightning (Season 1)
- Arrow (Season 4)
- Legends of Tomorrow (Season 1)
- Legends of Tomorrow (Season 2)
- Inhumans (Season 1)
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One last thing. We'll see how this the rest of this latest round of CW DC shows goes, but for all those people lauding DC for doing better than Marvel with their TV shows, I'm not sure where they are coming from. As you can see from from rankings, there was a time earlier on where that argument could be made, but its been a while since any of their shows have really made any waves with me, whereas Marvel keeps reinventing themselves and putting out good content.
I just watched justice league yesterday since it was on during the HBO free weekend. I don’t think it was as bad as people said but man it wasn’t good. At all. The amount of action was incredibly low for a super hero team up movie. There was the Wonder Woman initial scene, then nothing for almost an hour. I tried watching it with my kids and they were excited about it but they checked out pretty quick. These kids have watched basically every Marvel movie with rapt attention so far.
So my review is that it’s not horrible, it’s just completely boring, which is basically the opposite of what you are going for in a tent pole movie.
So my review is that it’s not horrible, it’s just completely boring, which is basically the opposite of what you are going for in a tent pole movie.
There were some redeeming parts of it, however there just wasn't enough. WW's spin block of the bullets from the terrorist at the start was awesome.
The Flash using his powers is great... the only problem is X-Men did it better with Quicksilver. I mean Quicksilver is a B list X-Men character and he is just flat out better than the Flash in Justice League. They are almost carbon copies.
The best scene in the movie IMO is back on WW's island when they are trying to prevent Steppenwolf from getting the box. However, that's basically WW part 2, there's just nothing new there at all.
I think the most glaring part is basically the lack of originality, and the fact again that there isn't the setup going into the movie that the Avengers had. In the Avengers, we didn't have to go through the motions of teaching us about guys powers, how they got them, and what they can do. We knew that already from previous movies. They could hit the ground running. There was already some good chemistry with the characters and actors. Things couldn't have been more wooden or rote with the delivery of the movie in general. I think it's obvious too that Whedon is just burnt out at this point and he doesn't have the same touch he brought to Avengers.
I've always been a Marvel guy (in fairness, I never was into the Avengers) but I just feel like the DECU is just so mismanaged at this point I don't know how it can be recovered. I don't think you can start out with Snyder's voice/vision which has always been somewhat bleak in a continuous universe. That just gets old.
I find myself wondering if the Transformers franchise is more entertaining than DCEU. I sat down and watched Transformers: The Last Knight a few weeks ago, and that movie was a mess from a plot perspective, but the action and special effects were way better than anything I have seen in BvS or Justice League.
Haha, I get your point on this but I'd give that a big NO. Outside of the first Transformers, those movies are way more atrocious than the DCEU, but that doesn't say a whole lot either.
The fact that someone could even consider making the comparison is enough quite frankly.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/h...xs-joker-origin-movie-officially-a-go-1126127
Joaquin Phoenix Joker movie is now officially a god over at Warner Bros. Personally, I'm a continuity junkie, so I'm not super thrilled about all these stand-alone movies they keep talking about. However, I am intrigued with seeing Phoenix in the Joker role. The dude is kind of mad in real life, so he is a perfect fit.
Joaquin Phoenix Joker movie is now officially a god over at Warner Bros. Personally, I'm a continuity junkie, so I'm not super thrilled about all these stand-alone movies they keep talking about. However, I am intrigued with seeing Phoenix in the Joker role. The dude is kind of mad in real life, so he is a perfect fit.
