Curious how you guys rank your units ...
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My unit? Well I am hung like an infant 9 pounds 3 ounces 21 inches long. And to Toledo yeah I do need to be creative to make up for my lack of looks and the beer equity around my mid section.
WR - B - Legit NFL talent from one guy which is pretty rare at ISU
RB - B- - A lot of past production that returns
DB - C - Cotton-Moya is proven, but injury prone. Then a bunch of talented guys who've not really proven much.
QB - C - Park has a high ceiling but he's barely touched it yet.
TE - C- - Some talent that won't be properly utilized. Like 5 TE catches combined since EJ Bibbs left
OL - D - The coaching is the only reason it's not an F. They have a defensive tackle at RG, but I guess if they can turn last years OL into mediocre, anything is possible.
DL - F - Almost always the worst unit on the field, which returns some guys, but they were bad for most of last season.
LB - F- - Our starting middle linebacker is a ******* quarterback.
RB - B- - A lot of past production that returns
DB - C - Cotton-Moya is proven, but injury prone. Then a bunch of talented guys who've not really proven much.
QB - C - Park has a high ceiling but he's barely touched it yet.
TE - C- - Some talent that won't be properly utilized. Like 5 TE catches combined since EJ Bibbs left
OL - D - The coaching is the only reason it's not an F. They have a defensive tackle at RG, but I guess if they can turn last years OL into mediocre, anything is possible.
DL - F - Almost always the worst unit on the field, which returns some guys, but they were bad for most of last season.
LB - F- - Our starting middle linebacker is a ******* quarterback.
Wow, you are super downer......
I completely disagree with F's what are you basis on? Last year? Trust me I am not on the hype train, but you breakdown is not really researched...
Based on evidence and that alone he's not wrong, really. We were 102nd vs the run and lost our 2 best lineman. The guys saying we will have an average line are hopeful and not basing their grades on tangible evidence.
If Robbie Garcia and Vernell Trent were the starters.... but we recruited this area heavily. Also if you look even at the preseason All-Conference items big 12 media and coaches have Lima getting some pretty big props already... I know we are young and unproven, but we are not undersized like usual ISU DL's and more than that we have much more depth.... Also if we have Kamilo sneak in by mid-year for 12ish snaps a game that is just a cherry on the top... I also think losing Tucker and Thomas is over valued. Both had next level talent but were playing a bit out of position last year, Tucker is true 3/4 downlineman. Thomas was playing strong side end till last year.... Also if they were on a team where they had the depth like this year, to me both the LBer and DL crews will be night and day..... Time will tell but I believe even with the lack of play last year, you can give them an F.... Pull you head out and do your research...
I base things on actual evidence and research. You're speculating on a kid thats never taken a big 12 snap based on hope and a recruiting ranking. It's you that needs to pull your head out.
I graded them a D+ btw, which is decent for their recent historical production.
you are the one the rated the DL and LBers a D+, I would go more on the optimistic side of C-, but I think we agree more than you think....
I'm a seeing is believing guy. We haven't been good on the DL in ages. I also have the unpopular opinion that Lanning will be an average b12 lb, at best.
I truly believe without drastic injuries that both groups will be much better than last year. I do agree they are the most concerning across the team... I am a seeing is believe guy as well, and have not even bought into any of the coach speak that has gone on up till now....
Noted. I haven't seen anything defensively that will make me give this staff the benefit of the doubt, yet.
Tight ends can provide allot of hidden value without catching a pass in CMC offense.
Fair enough, but that still validates a average to low rating across the nation. It's about production, which even if that's blocking it's almost impossible to quantify nationally.
That said, I'm still high on Allen and Kolar.
