Craig McDonald transferring

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Bring back the sit out year. There has to be some accountability for signing with a school out of high school.

With coach's ability to leave and the chance that a player isn't happy at their school, I give student athlete's the benefit of the doubt with the 1 time immediately eligible rule.

Maybe include a rule where the transfer athlete loses a year of eligibility unless they reach certain academic goals (i.e. credits, GPA, degree).
 

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You guys are really being dramatic over losing 1-2 starting safeties. Name one other starter we lost due to new college rules. (And Craig likely may not be due to that)

You guys act like Will McDonald left for an NIL deal

That's not what I'm saying. It's not concretely about the current situation.

I'm saying this type of stuff feels like a prelude to what's coming and that in itself is more difficult to get excited about.

FWIW losing a potential starting safety following a season where a leaky back end was a big difference maker isn't great.
 
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That's not what I'm saying. It's not concretely about the current situation.

I'm saying this type of stuff feels like a prelude to what's coming and that in itself is more difficult to get excited about.

FWIW losing a potential starting safety following a season where a leaky back end was a big difference maker isn't great.
Please don’t talk about our leaky back end in public.
 

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With coach's ability to leave and the chance that a player isn't happy at their school, I give student athlete's the benefit of the doubt with the 1 time immediately eligible rule.

Maybe include a rule where the transfer athlete loses a year of eligibility unless they reach certain academic goals (i.e. credits, GPA, degree).
Make scholarships a guaranteed contract for 1-5 years. During which time the player cannot be cut due to field performance and the player cannot transfer until the contract is complete.
That way a coach can roster plan
 

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Make scholarships a guaranteed contract for 1-5 years. During which time the player cannot be cut due to field performance and the player cannot transfer until the contract is complete.
That way a coach can roster plan

Something along these lines might be the answer. Scholarships become contracts where you have to stay for 2 yrs, 3 yrs, whatever. At least that way your freshman stars aren't getting poached all the time.
 

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Something along these lines might be the answer. Scholarships become contracts where you have to stay for 2 yrs, 3 yrs, whatever. At least that way your freshman stars aren't getting poached all the time.

I've mentioned it before--like 3 years for football and 2 for basketball unless they go (real) pro.
 

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Get used to it.
I view us like a JUCO. Good guys, motivated by money, will increasingly move on after one or two years. We have little will or capability to fight back. It’s just life going forward.
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That's not what I'm saying. It's not concretely about the current situation.

I'm saying this type of stuff feels like a prelude to what's coming and that in itself is more difficult to get excited about.

FWIW losing a potential starting safety following a season where a leaky back end was a big difference maker isn't great.
Again. Dumb because you literally are assuming things won’t change and this thing will have zero regulations. I get it’s fun to prepare for the worst, but the worst case scenario rarely happens.
 

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Something along these lines might be the answer. Scholarships become contracts where you have to stay for 2 yrs, 3 yrs, whatever. At least that way your freshman stars aren't getting poached all the time.
And make it so coaches can’t leave for other jobs too, right?

Edit: or be fired for on field performance also, right?
 

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Again. Dumb because you literally are assuming things won’t change and this thing will have zero regulations. I get it’s fun to prepare for the worst, but the worst case scenario rarely happens.

Where am I literally assuming anything concretely?

Talk about an emotional overreaction.

Time for some self reflection mmmK?
 

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Are the players counted as employees under this?
Wouldn’t they be considered employees? I mean if they’re signing binding contracts, and they get all the benefits of being a college athlete and compensation

And they’ll get 1099’s at the end of the year for money they make with NIL

That seems like employment
 

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Wouldn’t they be considered employees? I mean if they’re signing binding contracts, and they get all the benefits of being a college athlete and compensation

And they’ll get 1099’s at the end of the year for money they make with NIL

That seems like employment

I've seen nothing that says they'll officially be employees.

On that, who's the employer? The donation collectors?
 

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I've seen nothing that says they'll officially be employees.

On that, who's the employer? The donation collectors?
If scholarships are binding contracts, shouldn’t the athlete be considered an employee of the athletic department?

There’s compensation guaranteed in exchange for signing a letter of intent to attend a school? Nil would be more like endorsement deals, that the athlete is able to negotiate, in that scenario

I guess in the case of we will, the foundation would be who is hiring the athlete’s time for whatever various charity works they would do. Potentially, they could deal with the tax part of the payments
 
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If scholarships are binding contracts, shouldn’t the athlete be considered an employee of the athletic department?

There’s compensation guaranteed in exchange for signing a letter of intent to attend a school? Nil would be more like endorsement deals, that the athlete is able to negotiate, in that scenario

I guess in the case of we will, the foundation would be who is hiring the athlete’s time for whatever various charity works they would do. Potentially, they could deal with the tax part of the payments
We'll find out soon.

But employee status will only help regulate NIL once there is a collective bargaining agreement, which is almost assured. Then it would still take schools agreeing to want to limit NIL.

There will be so much change, pending that ruling.
 

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