Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)

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NorthCyd

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And what "true death rate" is acceptable on something like this? If we test everyone, and find the true death rate to be similar to the flu, can we go back normal living?

People are already freaking out about the increase in corona cases so far....how much of that is simply due to more testing?
This is spreading far faster than the flu. If everyone gets sick all at once it doesn't matter what the death rate is. The health care system will be overloaded and you won't be able to adequately treat the people who need it. Completely preventable deaths will occur just like in Italy and your death rate will be VERY high.
 

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And what "true death rate" is acceptable on something like this? If we test everyone, and find the true death rate to be similar to the flu, can we go back normal living?

People are already freaking out about the increase in corona cases so far....how much of that is simply due to more testing?

I think it'd still be hard for 'normal living' if the medical fields are overwhelmed by such a fast rate of hospitalization on top of other normal rates. And a fever is a fever, and keeps people from work so a fast spread is going to have that affect as well, along with the unknowns of immunity.
 

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This is spreading far faster than the flu. If everyone gets sick all at once it doesn't matter what the death rate is. The health care system will be overloaded and you won't be able to adequately treat the people who need it. Completely preventable deaths will occur just like in Italy and your death rate will be VERY high.

Yeah I understand that and we don't want to overload the health care system - that all makes sense. It will be interesting how all of this plays out. I hope and pray for the best!
 
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I think so too. And I am not trying to be insensitive about it or be a big conspiracy guy about it, but if it was here a while ago, and as a whole no one noticed it, what are we trying to gain or accomplish with our current shutdown measures?

To keep the health care system from getting overrun. That's the biggest thing. If there's a mountain of COVID-19 patients in there at once, there's a really bad trickle down.

It's been here, it will be here for awhile, but if we stunt the spread now, it will stay controllable.
 

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To keep the health care system from getting overrun. That's the biggest thing. If there's a mountain of COVID-19 patients in there at once, there's a really bad trickle down.

It's been here, it will be here for awhile, but if we stunt the spread now, it will stay controllable.

Testing imo also would help get early detections, possibly getting people to preemptively load themselves with water or some form of treatment to possibly fight off infection. Thinking of how many times I've even still worked out with just a head cold since it hadn't gotten worse, and how that could be detrimental in this situation.
 
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Iowa continues to drop down the list of states with active infections from COVID-19, currently below where we would be expected to be when compared to our population.

Being a largely rural state isn't bad yall. Voluntary self quarantine will work better here than some other places.

Hopefully we can stick to the trend of "underperforming" in this metric.

You do realize that NYC is testing people at a rate of 7,000 per day and that we have 400 TOTAL tests available in Iowa. It's not that we are better at this than other states, it is because we aren't testing people.

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You do realize that NYC is testing people at a rate of 7,000 per day and that we have 400 TOTAL tests available in Iowa. It's not that we are better at this than other states, it is because we aren't testing people.

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Because NYC is having severe cases more similar to Italy. To this point, Iowa has been pretty spared in terms of severe cases. Take care of the areas that need to be taken care of. If we see a hotspot, then I'd expect that to change. Don't waste supplies on blanket testing that isn't warranted at this point.
 

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I don’t understand the people in the “Test everybody now!” crowd. Do they realize that only provides a snapshot in time? What does it prove? At what interval do you retest all the negatives? Let the medical professionals decide whom to test at this point. The current ratio of negative results to positive results would seem to indicate they know what they’re doing.
 

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Yeah Trump shot this down again that he'd be implementing a country wide lockdown. I think it'd have to get worse across the entire nation for that to happen. More states my follow along with what others are doing and cutting down the employees in offices, but as far as an actual lockdown I doubt we'd end up doing that.
 
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Yeah Trump shot this down again that he'd be implementing a country wide lockdown. I think it'd have to get worse across the entire nation for that to happen. More states my follow along with what others are doing and cutting down the employees in offices, but as far as an actual lockdown I doubt we'd end up doing that.

I dont think they are saying its not a possiblity, just that its not happening right now. The way this whole thing is going, we will lock down tomorrow.
 

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I don’t understand the people in the “Test everybody now!” crowd. Do they realize that only provides a snapshot in time? What does it prove? At what interval do you retest all the negatives? Let the medical professionals decide whom to test at this point. The current ratio of negative results to positive results would seem to indicate they know what they’re doing.
I have heard very few people say test everyone, but we aren't even testing symptomatic people.
 

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Yeah Trump shot this down again that he'd be implementing a country wide lockdown. I think it'd have to get worse across the entire nation for that to happen. More states my follow along with what others are doing and cutting down the employees in offices, but as far as an actual lockdown I doubt we'd end up doing that.

Until we test everyone we don't know who can pass it on to people. See South Korea.
 
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I don’t understand the people in the “Test everybody now!” crowd. Do they realize that only provides a snapshot in time? What does it prove? At what interval do you retest all the negatives? Let the medical professionals decide whom to test at this point. The current ratio of negative results to positive results would seem to indicate they know what they’re doing.

Agreed! As someone who works in a school, we've had staff and students with pneumonia and other non-diagnosed respiratory illnesses over the past couple of months. In the staff cases, those individuals have shared that test results for influenza and strep were negative.

There have been a couple interesting articles coming out over the past couple of days regarding antibody testing. Here's a link to one: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/...ow-widespread-coronavirus-covid-19-really-is/

It would be interesting to know if any antibody testing (widespread or localized) has been suggested in Iowa, and if so, that could give us a better indication of how prevalent this new strain might be, imo...
 
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Sounds like some of our company leadership just had a call that essentially boiled down to " Despite what the governor has said we still have stuff that needs to get done and cannot be done from home so those people are still expected to be here working"
 
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I dont think they are saying its not a possiblity, just that its not happening right now. The way this whole thing is going, we will lock down tomorrow.
Yeah I guess it's certainly not impossible. A spike in cases and some more deaths could instantly make that happen.
 

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So if they test me today and I'm negative, I'm in the clear? Good to know.

I don't think anyone's saying that (although I'm sure there's people that feel that way).

Would it be a good thing if we could have a way to do rounds of tests like bi weekly to monitor it?
 
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