COACHING SEARCH: Campbell up, Fleck down

CloneIce

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You can be single and still fulfill that requirement.

Not a lot of people without a family are described as "family men." All I am saying is that should not be a requirement, the focus should be on finding the best football coach for Iowa State, not a certain type of person.
 

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And why is being a family man guided by faith a requirement?

The only thing I can think of is hopefully it's putting a person in place that's not only going to be a positive role model for the players but that kind of individual is what the donors would be most comfortable with. I don't necessarily agree, as a "non-family" man that doesn't let faith dictate his life can also be a positive role model, but I'm just putting out why the requirement may be there.
 

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Not a lot of people without a family are described as "family men." All I am saying is that should not be a requirement, the focus should be on finding the best football coach for Iowa State, not a certain type of person.
While I agree I think Pollard values it a bit to high, and I was a bit worried about it with Prohm, I think it is more about finding someone to fit the culture of the school. In order to be successful you need to be able to relate at least a little to the fans.
 

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While I agree I think Pollard values it a bit to high, and I was a bit worried about it with Prohm, I think it is more about finding someone to fit the culture of the school. In order to be successful you need to be able to relate at least a little to the fans.

I think what ISU can't have is a boring, stoic, reserved, within himself, type guy or a Pelini who is extreme and angry instead of just passionate.
 

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From the day he got to Ames, JP has promoted an athletic department that is designed to appeal to its fans as family entertainment. Given his success at the turnstiles, you probably can't argue with the approach much.
 

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So, which mod pulls the short straw purging this thread of all the ********?
 

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While I agree I think Pollard values it a bit to high, and I was a bit worried about it with Prohm, I think it is more about finding someone to fit the culture of the school. In order to be successful you need to be able to relate at least a little to the fans.

Agree, this is more reflective of our fans and culture, rather than Pollard himself. Pollard just tries his best to make decisions that the fans are likely to approve of. And that's what he should do.
 

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Good to know we're still using the criteria that caused us to pass on Jim Harbaugh because of his naughty language.

We're going to get exactly what we deserve yet again. Honor Instead of Victory.
 

CloneIce

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The only thing I can think of is hopefully it's putting a person in place that's not only going to be a positive role model for the players but that kind of individual is what the donors would be most comfortable with. I don't necessarily agree, as a "non-family" man that doesn't let faith dictate his life can also be a positive role model, but I'm just putting out why the requirement may be there.

Chizik fit this criteria. He was a self described southern religious man. Does anyone think his actions at ISU or Auburn backed that up? He did us dirty, then cheated at Auburn. There are plenty of coaches out there who aren't religious or don't wear it on their sleeve, who are better people and role models than Chizik, and many others like him.

I sure hope this isn't actually a matter of focus in our search. If it is, it should be far behind all of the other criteria which actually affect winning football games.
 

CloneIce

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Good to know we're still using the criteria that caused us to pass on Jim Harbaugh because of his naughty language.

We're going to get exactly what we deserve yet again. Honor Instead of Victory.

Exactly! We should have learned from that. And we ended up with Chizik instead. Puke.
 

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Good to know we're still using the criteria that caused us to pass on Jim Harbaugh because of his naughty language.

We're going to get exactly what we deserve yet again. Honor Instead of Victory.

Obviously he is a great coach but I'm sorry if you cuss in your interview you shouldn't be getting the job. This is coming from someone who has no problem with cussing.
 

CloneIce

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From the day he got to Ames, JP has promoted an athletic department that is designed to appeal to its fans as family entertainment. Given his success at the turnstiles, you probably can't argue with the approach much.

Given our record on the football field... oh I think it's fair game for fans to argue about his hiring approach.
 

CloneIce

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Obviously he is a great coach but I'm sorry if you cuss in your interview you shouldn't be getting the job. This is coming from someone who has no problem with cussing.

It's a good thing for Stanford and Michigan fans that their school didn't agree with this.
 

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To me, Pollard would have been a fool if he hadn't started a secret search back at about the Toledo game loss. With that timeline, mid october to narrow the field. In this last week, he is just checking out any new possibilities that may have shown up on the radar screen, and also working out details. I bet there is a favorite that was selected back in October. And then there are a few new names to challenge that October favorite. This of course, assuming that JP had believed that getting a new coach quickly after the firing of Rhoads was going to be essential.
 

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It's a good thing for Stanford and Michigan fans that their school didn't agree with this.

How hard is it though. It isn't like the majority of jobs aren't going to be the same way. In the majority of jobs I would think that this would extend to the actual job.