CBS Drafts NCAA MBB Coaches

Dandy

Future CF Mod
Oct 11, 2012
22,123
17,362
113
Western Iowa
I'm not surprised Jon Rothstein was the guy who ended up choosing Hoiberg. Rothstein loves him some Hoiberg.

Also, Calipari won at UMass and Memphis and was caught with multiple recruiting violations after he left those programs. When is the NCAA going to realize it's probably happening at Kentucky too?
 
Last edited:

mj4cy

Asst. Regional Manager
Staff member
Mar 28, 2006
31,804
14,767
113
Iowa
I don't like Rothstein's pick of Miller with Arizona, but love his Freddy pick obviously.
 

madcityCY

Well-Known Member
Nov 29, 2006
5,907
141
63
42
Madison, WI
Hadn't seen this posted yet. Similar to the ESPN college coach countdown, but it is the CBS MBB writers 'Drafting' basketball coaches.

"Dreamy" comes in at #9. For what its worth, this list seems MUCH more accurate than the ESPN one.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebas...es-draft-who-would-you-pick-to-lead-your-team

I don't understand. How does one rate accuracy of subjective lists with made with (apparently) different criteria.

Of course I like the CBS list because it rates Fred higher, but I couldn't tell anyone it's more "accurate" with a straight face.
 

abe2010

Well-Known Member
Jan 14, 2009
1,437
111
63
Story City, IA
I'm not surprised Jon Rothstein was the guy who ended up choosing Hoibeg. Rothstein loves him some Hoiberg.

Also, Calipari won at UMass and Memphis and was caught with multiple recruiting violations after he left those programs. When is the NCAA going to realize it's probably happening at Kentucky too?

as soon as Kentucky isn't a blue blood program
 

jsb

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Mar 7, 2008
33,307
39,313
113
There's a difference. CBS lists coaches they'd want leading a program. Basically who would you want to hire. ESPN lists coaches based on their results. Different criteria. Both are interesting. Both are pretty accurate.
 

tzjung

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Mar 2, 2007
2,260
1,481
113
45
Ankeny, IA
There's a difference. CBS lists coaches they'd want leading a program. Basically who would you want to hire. ESPN lists coaches based on their results. Different criteria. Both are interesting. Both are pretty accurate.

Really...Mad Fran in the top 25 for ESPN is accurate? If you say so....
 

jsb

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Mar 7, 2008
33,307
39,313
113
Mad Fran was 33. I guess I should specify that the list was mostly accurate. I would have had mad Fran a bit lower and hoiberg at 12 or 13.
 

MNCyGuy

Well-Known Member
Jan 14, 2009
11,644
551
83
Des Moines

Cincyclone

Well-Known Member
Feb 5, 2012
3,104
165
48
Good little write-up from Rothstein:

Why him?
No one gave Iowa State a thought five years ago. Today? The Cyclones are coming off three straight appearances in the NCAA Tournament and a Sweet 16 trip last March. Many wondered how Hoiberg would do when he returned to his alma mater in 2010 with zero head coaching experience, but he's quickly dismissed all doubters. "The Mayor" is as good an X's and O's coach as there is in college basketball and gives his players the freedom they so desperately crave on the offensive end. He treats his players like they're professionals, and that's something you don't see at most college programs. Another thing to like about Hoiberg? He's proven he can build a program through unconventional methods. Iowa State has taken 12 transfers since Hoiberg's arrival four years ago, but he's also quietly doing a good job with kids out of high school as well. Georges Niang should be in for an All-Big 12 first-team type season as a junior. Monte Morris led the nation in assist-turnover ratio as a freshman last year. There's only one type of trajectory right now in Ames -- upward. -- Rothstein
 

cyrocksmypants

Well-Known Member
Dec 29, 2008
91,284
89,026
113
Washington DC
I'm not surprised Jon Rothstein was the guy who ended up choosing Hoiberg. Rothstein loves him some Hoiberg.

Also, Calipari won at UMass and Memphis and was caught with multiple recruiting violations after he left those programs. When is the NCAA going to realize it's probably happening at Kentucky too?

The media loves Cal. There will be a point where the NCAA will say "ok Cal, you're not giving us much of a choice" and will has to start an investigation. At that point Cal leaves and the media talks about how it's just a weird coincidence that last three schools he was at ended up getting sanctions. Or they'll just not talk about it at all.
 

allfourcy

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Apr 26, 2012
6,950
2,983
113
I'm not surprised Jon Rothstein was the guy who ended up choosing Hoiberg. Rothstein loves him some Hoiberg.

Also, Calipari won at UMass and Memphis and was caught with multiple recruiting violations after he left those programs. When is the NCAA going to realize it's probably happening at Kentucky too?

Sorry to bring up old info, but I've read similar posts to this before but my memory eludes me. If he was caught with violations at both programs, what were the penalties? And if he just keeps on winning at Kentucky, they obviously didn't affect his career or future success any. If they would find more, seems it wouldn't really matter in the long run. Just curious.
 

Cyclonepride

Thought Police
Staff member
Apr 11, 2006
98,814
62,369
113
55
A pineapple under the sea
www.oldschoolradical.com
Good little write-up from Rothstein:

Why him?
No one gave Iowa State a thought five years ago. Today? The Cyclones are coming off three straight appearances in the NCAA Tournament and a Sweet 16 trip last March. Many wondered how Hoiberg would do when he returned to his alma mater in 2010 with zero head coaching experience, but he's quickly dismissed all doubters. "The Mayor" is as good an X's and O's coach as there is in college basketball and gives his players the freedom they so desperately crave on the offensive end. He treats his players like they're professionals, and that's something you don't see at most college programs. Another thing to like about Hoiberg? He's proven he can build a program through unconventional methods. Iowa State has taken 12 transfers since Hoiberg's arrival four years ago, but he's also quietly doing a good job with kids out of high school as well. Georges Niang should be in for an All-Big 12 first-team type season as a junior. Monte Morris led the nation in assist-turnover ratio as a freshman last year. There's only one type of trajectory right now in Ames -- upward. -- Rothstein

I love that summary!
 

Cydkar

Well-Known Member
Apr 12, 2006
26,920
12,721
113
I'm not surprised Jon Rothstein was the guy who ended up choosing Hoiberg. Rothstein loves him some EVERYBODY.

Also, Calipari won at UMass and Memphis and was caught with multiple recruiting violations after he left those programs. When is the NCAA going to realize it's probably happening at Kentucky too?

FIFY
 

CyArob

Why are you the way that you are?
Apr 22, 2011
32,496
13,442
113
MN
I don't understand. How does one rate accuracy of subjective lists with made with (apparently) different criteria.

Of course I like the CBS list because it rates Fred higher, but I couldn't tell anyone it's more "accurate" with a straight face.

Easy. You look at whichever list has Hoiberg rated higher, and that's the more accurate list.
 

Clone1138

Member
Apr 18, 2013
743
23
18
Central Iowa
Good little write-up from Rothstein:

Why him?
No one gave Iowa State a thought five years ago. Today? The Cyclones are coming off three straight appearances in the NCAA Tournament and a Sweet 16 trip last March. Many wondered how Hoiberg would do when he returned to his alma mater in 2010 with zero head coaching experience, but he's quickly dismissed all doubters. "The Mayor" is as good an X's and O's coach as there is in college basketball and gives his players the freedom they so desperately crave on the offensive end. He treats his players like they're professionals, and that's something you don't see at most college programs. Another thing to like about Hoiberg? He's proven he can build a program through unconventional methods. Iowa State has taken 12 transfers since Hoiberg's arrival four years ago, but he's also quietly doing a good job with kids out of high school as well. Georges Niang should be in for an All-Big 12 first-team type season as a junior. Monte Morris led the nation in assist-turnover ratio as a freshman last year. There's only one type of trajectory right now in Ames -- upward. -- Rothstein

Chills.
 

NickTheGreat

Well-Known Member
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Jan 17, 2012
10,802
4,771
113
Central Iowa
Say what you want about the caliber of men on the list above CFH, but those are some heavy hitters, coaching-wise, up there :shocked:
 

CyJack13

Well-Known Member
May 21, 2010
12,666
1,665
113
Sorry to bring up old info, but I've read similar posts to this before but my memory eludes me. If he was caught with violations at both programs, what were the penalties? And if he just keeps on winning at Kentucky, they obviously didn't affect his career or future success any. If they would find more, seems it wouldn't really matter in the long run. Just curious.

Calipari has never had any penalty brought against him. UMass got in trouble for Camby taking money from an agent and Memphis got in trouble for playing a player who was eligible at the time but was retroactively ruled ineligible by the NCAA.