BYU QB accused of sexual assault

[VeloClone]

True. But at the time there wasn't any actual assault. The player was verbally angry at her, but no physical abuse had occurred. She reached for her phone but it was dead. He then fell asleep and she charged her phone. He then woke up and that's when the physical abuse allegedly occurred.

It just seems she didn't feel threatened when he feel asleep. If she was, she'd get out of there when he was sleeping

I don't know.. Something to the story just isn't adding up IMO

The story is third hand at best. The reporter may have not understood what the story was. Some details often get garbled when it is edited down to a newspaper article.

 

[Drew0311]

well this is certainly something.

1. if he did it, he's gone.
2. broke the honor code, he's gone.
3. it's false, and the accuser is all sorts of messed up.

but the comment from the cop.... YIKES

If he admits they hooked up and didn't have sex, He's gone. Not allowed at BYU. Also, Not sure how they can prove this in court two years after it happened with no evidence other than he said she said. That is not enough to convict someone of Graping her.

 

[drmwevr08]

If he admits they hooked up and didn't have sex, He's gone. Not allowed at BYU. Also, Not sure how they can prove this in court two years after it happened with no evidence other than he said she said. That is not enough to convict someone of Graping her.

That's how civil trials work. Which side do you believe. No 'proof' per se, required.

 

[VeloClone]

If he admits they hooked up and didn't have sex, He's gone. Not allowed at BYU. Also, Not sure how they can prove this in court two years after it happened with no evidence other than he said she said. That is not enough to convict someone of Graping her.

The fact that she went in and got a rape kit after it happened will likely get rid of most jury member's doubt that a rape happened. It will likely go to identity at that point. Her friend that was there before then will be key.

But what most of the attorneys I have worked with always say is that you can never predict what a jury will do no matter how strong or how weak your case is.

 

[CloneFan65]

Provo police have a tight relationship with the university. Questioning officer behavior is a bare minimum in these cases.

Newly released records show it was ‘standard practice’ for BYU police to help with Honor Code surveillance

A BYU police lieutenant's surveillance of students was part of a defacto system, newly released records show, with university employees in several departments asking for and welcoming his reports.I

www.sltrib.com

This is disgusting. BYU finds out the names of BYU students who report being SA, then penalize the victims for breaking the honor code.

 

[cycopath25]

Bro getting soaked.

NFL Scouting report says the BYU quarterback has the best pump fake in college football.

 

[simply1]

That's how civil trials work. Which side do you believe. No 'proof' per se, required.

That’s not really true. There’s still evidence presented. Either case requires the jury to meet a burden of proof standard.

 

[acoustimac]

The fact that she went in and got a rape kit after it happened will likely get rid of most jury member's doubt that a rape happened. It will likely go to identity at that point. Her friend that was there before then will be key.

But what most of the attorneys I have worked with always say is that you can never predict what a jury will do no matter how strong or how weak your case is.

No one gets a rape kit done for the fun of it…this will be one of the damning pieces at court.

 

[drmwevr08]

That’s not really true. There’s still evidence presented. Either case requires the jury to meet a burden of proof standard.

I didn't say you wouldn't provide what you have, but what I was responding too sounded like a reference to a criminal standard, which this is not. Your story has to be convincing, more so than the other party. They are very different.