That way you don't even need the bridge. Teslas are supposed to be able to drive through water, maybe Elon can make them like tiny submarines and then you can have a car lane underwater that shuts down for the ships to go over the topIF such a rarity needs an ejection why not have a View attachment 126433
What do you mean? This is awesome. She did her research, uncovered some serious technical specs and facts, combined it in a timeline that works, and created one heck of a beginning to a Tom Clancy book.WTF happened to her. I used to love watching her on 60 minutes. Now she is a nutcase.
I didn't know she was from Iowa like cg said. Maybe she is from Newton and curt can look her up?What do you mean? This is awesome. She did her research, uncovered some serious technical specs and facts, combined it in a timeline that works, and created one heck of a beginning to a Tom Clancy book.
After using the google machine, I discovered that she's not from Iowa but her first husband was. They divorced in 2008. He is from Comanche, which I learned is near Clinton, and went to Morningside College before becoming a pro basketball player in the UK. Most importantly, his last name is Siemon and he grew up near Beaver Island.I didn't know she was from Iowa like cg said. Maybe she is from Newton and curt can look her up?
No other place like beaver island.After using the google machine, I discovered that she's not from Iowa but her first husband was. They divorced in 2008. He is from Comanche, which I learned is near Clinton, and went to Morningside College before becoming a pro basketball player in the UK. Most importantly, his last name is Siemon and he grew up near Beaver Island.
While correct, most of these projects are getting accomplished at the local level with federal funding.You do understand that what you described is actually the responsibility of the county and not state or federal? It seems many people don't understand the difference between who maintains which roads/bridges and their general funding sources.
No other place like beaver island.
Wonder where that money is saved and earmarked for this?Because Maritime Law usually protects them. Not always, but usually.
And the US collects billions in harbor maintenance fees on customs entries to pay for such things.
Wonder where that money is saved and earmarked for this?
That way you don't even need the bridge. Teslas are supposed to be able to drive through water, maybe Elon can make them like tiny submarines and then you can have a car lane underwater that shuts down for the ships to go over the top
I suspect given the age of the bridge and the fact the port needs to be dredged so larger ships can come in, there was a plan in the near future.Wonder where that money is saved and earmarked for this?
I suspect given the age of the bridge and the fact the port needs to be dredged so larger ships can come in, there was a plan in the near future.
Now they probably switch up some of the proiritied
What a job by authorities to get traffic stopped in 90 seconds. That is amazing and heroic.Been wondering why no one was able to notify the work crew. Seems the time window was very short so couldn't get done in time.
Following the mayday alarm, a dispatcher’s 12-second warning crackled over the radio: “There’s a ship approaching that’s just lost their steering so until they’ve got that under control we’ve got to stop all traffic.”Within about 90 seconds, police officers responded that they had managed to stop vehicle traffic over the bridge in both directions.One official said he was about to drive onto the bridge to alert a construction crew, but it was too late.With the ship barreling toward the bridge at "a very, very rapid speed", authorities had just enough time to stop cars, Maryland governor Wes Moore said. - The Independent
That way you don't even need the bridge. Teslas are supposed to be able to drive through water, maybe Elon can make them like tiny submarines and then you can have a car lane underwater that shuts down for the ships to go over the top
Maritime law is definitely its own thing. Probably the biggest thing to understand is the Limitations of Liability Act, which basically limits the ship owner's liability to the value of the vessel plus any and all cargo on board at the time of the accident. That liability includes the cost of replacing the bridge, damages to the families of those that died, and anyone else damaged by the port being out of commission or being unable to use the bridge and it's pretty clear it'll be peanuts.On water right-of-ways are always favorable to shipping. They had unhindered passage on all navigable waters. The law (generally) looks at bridges and anything else put in the water as a hazard to shipping.
The laws go back at least to before the Civil War. There's a famous case of Effie Afton that hit a Mississippi River bridge about a month after it was completed and burned it (the bridge) to the ground(water?). The Effie Afton was cleared of any liability. (Abraham Lincoln was one of the lawyers. I think on the losing side,)
You make a lot of reasonable points in a vacuum. But how many times is it feasible to keep putting larger and larger pilings up as ships get bigger? What impact speed should they be rated to stop? Should we spend the money making sure ships don't knock it down, or keeping the structure from degrading and falling down? How many bridges just like this also need the same protection? It's a question of risk mitigation vs risk elimination and we don't have limitless money, labor and engineering resources. This is the wrapping your children in bubble wrap solution.So the bridge protection system could not have been updated as the size of ships grew? Or Baltimore Harbor limited to certain size ships? We have upgraded airports to take larger planes, including cargo planes. We often limit tractor trailers based on tonnage and limit routes hazardous materials can traverse. All of this done often after original construction.
I am sure they will take a look at waterway safety in the future, after this tragedy, but it would be nice if we can start foreseeing and limiting these accidents. Or else we can just add a nickel to the gas tax, or a few billion to the debt; and go on with blinders and no accountability cause "**** happens".
Audio gives a pretty good indication.Been wondering why no one was able to notify the work crew. Seems the time window was very short so couldn't get done in time.
Following the mayday alarm, a dispatcher’s 12-second warning crackled over the radio: “There’s a ship approaching that’s just lost their steering so until they’ve got that under control we’ve got to stop all traffic.”Within about 90 seconds, police officers responded that they had managed to stop vehicle traffic over the bridge in both directions.One official said he was about to drive onto the bridge to alert a construction crew, but it was too late.With the ship barreling toward the bridge at "a very, very rapid speed", authorities had just enough time to stop cars, Maryland governor Wes Moore said. - The Independent
Audio gives a pretty good indication.