BOWL BOUND!

[Rudy Katoot]

Bowl bound but not for ISU! What do you conclude from Tyler Lorenzen’s history?

As a high school junior in the state of Iowa, he puts up big numbers and is identified by several publications as a player to watch. He follows family tradition (both Dad & grandfather are former Cyclone running backs) and attends ISU as a freshman. But our former coaching staff says you can’t play quarterback, we will make you into an end. But Tyler says I want to play quarterback and thus leaves ISU for the California JC system were he becomes the league's MVP. Do we ask him back? No, but UCONN offers him.
As a Junior for the 25th ranked Huskies, Tyler will today go for his 9th win of the season. Of course he has a QB rating that is higher than Meyer’s.

Is it difficult to identify QB talent?
Rudy

 

[loboclone]

Bowl bound but not for ISU! What do you conclude from Tyler Lorenzen’s history?

As a high school junior in the state of Iowa, he puts up big numbers and is identified by several publications as a player to watch. He follows family tradition (both Dad & grandfather are former Cyclone running backs) and attends ISU as a freshman. But our former coaching staff says you can’t play quarterback, we will make you into an end. But Tyler says I want to play quarterback and thus leaves ISU for the California JC system were he becomes the league's MVP. Do we ask him back? No, but UCONN offers him.
As a Junior for the 25th ranked Huskies, Tyler will today go for his 9th win of the season. Of course he has a QB rating that is higher than Meyer’s.

Is it difficult to identify QB talent?
Rudy

Conclude from this? Just another missed talent by previous staff............some of us where used to missed opportunties under D-Mac. Why the question now? The kid had a family history at ISU and talent. Lets run him off.......................

 

[cyking]

He would have never started ahead of Bret Meyer.

 

[crash_zone]

Its tricky. He probably got that good while playing in the JC system. In a head to head with meyer at the time they would have been after the starting spot - Meyer may very well have won out. This kids practice/coaching/experiences since leaving ISU have made him a better quarterback. Would he have developed into that if he had stayed? donno

 

[jumbopackage]

As someone else said, our cupboard was full at QB. Frankly, he's not that great of a college QB, IMO. With that in mind, I don't view it as a missed opportunity. We would have been just as bad this year with him at the helm as with Meyer.

 

[isugcs]

Coulda, woulda, shoulda. You put this guy behind the lines we've had, we might have had success, or we may have been no better off.

 

[ISUclones33]

Tyler has alot of talent surrounding him as well... Football IS a team sport... what ever happens happens.. ISU fans have had alot of bad luck, good things are coming

 

[Rudy Katoot]

Yes, that must be it, he isn’t that good……...except Scout listed him as a 4 star.

http://connecticut.scout.com/a.z?s=342&p=8&c=1&nid=2761890

And then it’s hard to ignore the fact that he has won with 2 different teams. UCON will probably figure out that he is mediocre and bench him right after their championship and bowl game.

 

[jdoggivjc]

Yes, that must be it, he isn’t that good……...except Scout listed him as a 4 star.

http://connecticut.scout.com/a.z?s=342&p=8&c=1&nid=2761890

And then it’s hard to ignore the fact that he has won with 2 different teams. UCON will probably figure out that he is mediocre and bench him right after their championship and bowl game.

When are people going to realize that stars mean virtually nothing? Look at Iowa - they're filled with supposed 3 and 4 stars. Where are they at now? Likely sulking at home over the holidays with a bowl-eligible 6-6 record...

 

[jumbopackage]

Yes, that must be it, he isn’t that good……...except Scout listed him as a 4 star.

http://connecticut.scout.com/a.z?s=342&p=8&c=1&nid=2761890

And then it’s hard to ignore the fact that he has won with 2 different teams. UCON will probably figure out that he is mediocre and bench him right after their championship and bowl game.

Coming out of HS he was a 1 star guy with no offers. Tyler Lorenzen Profile - Football Recruiting

Stars are largely meaningless. Lots of players have won with different high school or college teams. It doesn't mean they are responsible for the winning. Just because a player comes from a winning team doesn't make them automatically a good player. It's really pretty easy to ignore.

He's 58th in the nation in passing efficiency, 70th in the nation in completions per game, 63rd in the nation in passing yards per game, 58th in the nation in total offense.

The guy is an average QB. Sorry to burst your bubble.

 

[Wesley]

After watching the game yesterday, I think we could have used him. Neither Bret or Austin looked prima.

 

[ajk4st8]

"He would have never started ahead of Bret Meyer."


Not until this year he wouldn't.

 

[Cypwr]

The question is if we insert him on to ISU's team this year to replace BM what would our record be? I would guess 3-9.

 

[copenhagen]

we could of had Tebow come to ISU and Mac

still would have started Meyer.

 

[chrishull14]

Tyler is probably much better off where he is now. He never would have been as good as he is now if he had stayed in Ames. The previous staff could identify talent in recruiting, but they did not develop offensive talent on campus. (See Meyer and Blythe) The defense was developed, and therefore solid. But, apparently, unless you were a starter, you wouldn't get any attention on offense. I am just glad we aren't in that situation now.

 

[jumbopackage]

Tyler is probably much better off where he is now. He never would have been as good as he is now if he had stayed in Ames. The previous staff could identify talent in recruiting, but they did not develop offensive talent on campus. (See Meyer and Blythe) The defense was developed, and therefore solid. But, apparently, unless you were a starter, you wouldn't get any attention on offense. I am just glad we aren't in that situation now.

I call BS on this. We have two QBs in the NFL right now. Seneca was a Juco guy, but isn't Sage pretty similar to the Tyler Lorenzen story, sans the Juco thing?

I contend that he's not that great now, just has a decent cast around him.

 

[isufbcurt]

I am sick of the Tyler Lorenzen thing. Its pretty simple for you people who like to look back and second guess when he was here he wasn't that good and obviously did not want to stay at ISU and compete for the job. So he went to JUCO and played in a system that benefitted his skills. Now at UCONN he is doing pretty well, however it is not all him, he has a pretty good supporting cast around him. I wish him good luck, but it was his choice not to stay at ISU and try to compete.

 

[jumbopackage]

And then it’s hard to ignore the fact that he has won with 2 different teams. UCON will probably figure out that he is mediocre and bench him right after their championship and bowl game.

Well he did end up on the bench after the championship game. He looked pretty rough throughout most of that game. Lots of missed receivers. A few really bad decisions. 14 of 28 for 151 yards and 1 touchdown. Sounds pretty much like the definition of mediocre to me. The backup steps in and goes 4/6 for 38 yards and a touchdown. I think it might be the team and not the qb.

 

[ScottyP]

UCONN is a team that doesn't like to throw the ball. I saw a couple of games where he only threw 10 or 11 passes. He might make an occasional play but for the most part, he is there to hand the ball off to the RB. UCONN just has a good team around him.