Big 12 Tournament Seed Scenarios

kucyclone

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Boring Post OU-OSU update:

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Interesting that the tiebreaker for the 10 seed - between Oklahoma and Texas Tech - will be decided by who wins the Colorado-Nebraska game tonight to claim 4th place in the Big 12 North. OU is the 10 if CU wins, and TT is the 10 if NU wins. Every tiebreaker until W-L record against 4th place in the North was tied.

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Post KSU-ISU and aTm-TTU update:

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If all you care about is the 5-seed - and I get that feeling - there's not much to update. It's still Mizzou if Nebraska beats Colorado. It's still Baylor if CU and BU win. And it's still CU if CU and UT win.

KSU is locked into the 4 seed for a potential second-round game, losing a head-to-head tiebreaker with A&M for the #3 seed. And the potential third round game would be against whoever wins between KU and the 8/9 game (which would be Oklahoma State versus the loser of tonight's NU/CU game).

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POST KU-MU UPDATE:

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ISU plays Mizzou if NU beats Colorado.
ISU plays Baylor if CU beats NU and BU beats UT.
ISU plays Colorado if CU beats NU and UT beats UT.

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ORIGINAL POST:

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(correction #1: in KU's L column on the far right, it should say "1 or 2")

This should be fairly straight-forward.

- The first section is the 6 games tomorrow.

- In the second section, the win column is listed first, then the head-to-head tiebreakers in the next two columns.

- The third section is the result if any of the five possible three-team-ties occur.

- And the fourth section just shows what positions are possible for each of the 12 teams should they win their last game, and should they lose their last game.

One note that may only interest me:

- With a TTU loss and an OU win in the afternoon, both are tied for the 10th spot. Their tiebreaker would stay tied until "record against 4th place Big 12 North team." Of course, 4th place in the North will not be determined until later in the night, and the TTU/OU tiebreaker would depend on the CU/NU winner.

I'll try to update this after each of the four game times.
 
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Cyforce

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So if KU beats MO and CU beats NU we get Colorado or Baylor rather than Missouri depending on the Baylor game.
 

clonedude

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I do NOT want to face Missouri. They could possibly be our worst matchup IMO.
 

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My order of draws:

Baylor
Kansas St.
Colorado
Missouri

Obviously, Mizzou is not a good matchup. I don't think we would matchup with CU's big guards very well again. If K State wins today, it's hard to beat a team three times in a season.
 

yoteforever

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My order of draws:

Baylor
Kansas St.
Colorado
Missouri

Obviously, Mizzou is not a good matchup. I don't think we would matchup with CU's big guards very well again. If K State wins today, it's hard to beat a team three times in a season.

I hope it's Baylor if for no other reason than to knock them out like they did us with our Championshion team Eustachey coached. Then we went forward and lost to a #15 seed.

Turnabout is fair play. I would love to win a game or two down there.
 

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I want to have a 5-game winning streak and get to the Big 12 Semis at 19-14 and then take our chances with KU. I think we could get a postseason invite with that record. (I actually want to finish 21-14, but while hopeful, I am also somewhat realistic.)
 

Clonehomer

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So, we just need Kansas and Colorado to win. That way we either have Baylor or Colorado depending on the BU/UT game. I think we have a puncher's chance against either of those teams. I don't think that KU will be a problem against MU, but let's hope that CU can continue to win at home.
 

jaretac

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Well it looks like KU is going to beat Missouri so right now we are waiting for the BU/UT game and the CU/NU game.

Right now we are down to

Missouri
Colorado or
Baylor

in the 5th seed.
 

kucyclone

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Original post updated with KSU-ISU and TTU-aTm games.

If you don't want to see Mizzou, cheer for Colorado. That game isn't on TV anywhere, as far as I can tell. Weird. CU is a 4-point favorite last I checked.

If ISU wins on Wednesday, they'll play KSU on Thursday.
 

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In other words ...

1. KANSAS
2. TEXAS
3. TEXAS A&M
4. KANSAS STATE
5. Colorado, Baylor or Missouri
6. Baylor, Colorado, Missouri or Nebraska
7. Missouri, Nebraska or Baylor
8. Nebraska or Colorado
9. OKLAHOMA STATE
10. OKLAHOMA
11. TEXAS TECH
12. IOWA STATE

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if BAYLOR and COLORADO win ...
1. KANSAS
2. TEXAS
3. TEXAS A&M
4. KANSAS STATE
5. Baylor
6. Colorado
7. Missouri
8. Nebraska
9. OKLAHOMA STATE
10. Oklahoma
11. Texas Tech
12. IOWA STATE

if BAYLOR and NEBRASKA win ...
1. KANSAS
2. TEXAS
3. TEXAS A&M
4. KANSAS STATE
5. Missouri
6. Baylor
7. Nebraska
8. Colorado
9. OKLAHOMA STATE
10. Oklahoma
11. Texas Tech
12. IOWA STATE

if TEXAS and COLORADO win ...
1. KANSAS
2. TEXAS
3. TEXAS A&M
4. KANSAS STATE
5. Colorado
6. Missouri
7. Baylor
8. Nebraska
9. OKLAHOMA STATE
10. Oklahoma
11. Texas Tech
12. IOWA STATE

if TEXAS and NEBRASKA win ...
1. KANSAS
2. TEXAS
3. TEXAS A&M
4. KANSAS STATE
5. Missouri
6. Nebraska
7. Baylor
8. Colorado
9. OKLAHOMA STATE
10. Oklahoma
11. Texas Tech
12. IOWA STATE
 
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