I agree that Saul wouldn't have done that, but Jimmy would have and Jimmy did. In my opinion, he left Saul in the court room and moved on with life.
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Once he found out Kim was involved and had confessed to what happened that is what finally changed things for him. He was absolutely going to take the best deal for himself before that. And he was Saul initially in the courtroom and then made sure to say he was Jimmy McGill at the end.
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we saw Jimmy pay for the groceries his brother needed ... and the Jimmy that helped Kim out. All the while seeing Saul work over career lawyers at nearly every Federal level.
Saul Goodman died... but his memory (by others) keeps Jimmy safe in prison.
Bingo.
The second he informed the court that he was going by James McGill, Saul Goodman died. James McGill and Saul Goodman were not the same person - that was one of the main cruxes of the show.
I think this is mostly right, but it's more complicated than this. The two moments of color in the present-day timeline are when Jimmy sees the Better Call Saul commercial (reflected in his glasses) and when he can share a cigarette with Kim. Both of these, I think, are his yearning for the good old days: when he was in his heyday as Saul, and when he was with Kim.
I don't think that he wants Saul to die - after all, we hear him called "Saul" by another inmate in the kitchen in the last scene before he meets Kim in prison. I do think that he wants the "Slippin' Jimmy," Walter White co-conspirator side of him to die. It was that side of him that got the feds down to a 7.5 year sentence in his plea agreement, but learning that Kim was confessing snapped him out of that and made him understand that he wanted to come clean, be honest, and just be himself. Whether himself is "Jimmy" or "Saul" doesn't matter.
At the end of the day you have to believe that a guy that went from slippin Jimmy to working for the Cartel to Walter White suddenly throws away a 7 year deal for 86 because he didn't want Kim to get sued? Its in no way believable. I won't argue its one way to end the story but the story should have ended in a believable way that made sense to who the characters were, not to what the writers wanted to "say" about Jimmy.
And as much as I enjoyed the last season they were a bit up their own ass with the black and white and time changes. Just tell the story of Saul/Jimmy and the cartel, that would have been great.
AND with the timeline Saul would have been out by now (2022), that would have felt good. Maybe I cheer for the bad guys to much, but I would have loved to see him out of prison in current day.
And as much as I enjoyed the last season they were a bit up their own ass with the black and white and time changes. Just tell the story of Saul/Jimmy and the cartel, that would have been great.
AND with the timeline Saul would have been out by now (2022), that would have felt good. Maybe I cheer for the bad guys to much, but I would have loved to see him out of prison in current day.
I think it's so much bigger and deeper than this.
Back when Jimmy was working at HHM in the mailroom and Kim was a newly minted attorney. Both were viewed poorly by Howard.
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You had to think pretty hard to really follow all the slow paced subtleties of this series - very cerebral. I don't usually enjoy working that hard when I'm watching TV because I'm usually just trying to escape the every day chaos.
But I got sucked into this amazing series big time and I'm really going to miss not being able to visit the BCS/BB universe any longer.
But I got sucked into this amazing series big time and I'm really going to miss not being able to visit the BCS/BB universe any longer.
I rewatched the second half of that final episode and realized how much I loved the writing and development of Saul's "awakening". I really don't see any other way they could have gone with it that wouldn't have cheapened it for the audience.
The cartel was wiped out by Gus and later by Walt and Hector long before the timeline of this final episode. Whoever picked up the pieces doesn't matter story-wise.
Jimmy is the first character in the BrB universe to actually get what he deserves as the result of his own actions. It is pretty cool it was written as such that it required him to realize it about himself in order for it to happen, right as he was about to skate. It was more legitimate in my mind than Walter White's redemption in the final episode of Breaking Bad.
I thought it was a great ending to a great show.
I thought it was a great ending to a great show.
Did Walt get a "redemption"? His story is different because his time was at an end due to cancer. So he was able to kill the Nazis and threaten the Gray Matter couple to get his money to his children, and then he saved Jesse. But he was irredeemable by that point.
I know that Howard always gave Kim a hard time but I thought he was always a fan of Jimmy and said as much in at least one episode. He just had to do Chuck's dirty work to keep Jimmy out of HHM I thought.
Just watched the finale. Very disappointed to say the least, that ending was a cop out.
Jimmy was arrested with the business card for the vacuum salesman and some bogus dust filter model written in the back of it. Curious how that police interview went.
