Best Team of 1 NBA player and 4 clones

[HFCS]

while you can make an argument either way, this whole "refusal to lose" stuff is crazy. You either win or lose. I refuse to lose and lose all the time. It makes no sense.

To put it in real world example terms...
Your team is down 0-2 in the Finals
You've just lost control of a game 3 you led the entire way.
40 seconds left and a full shot clock.
You're the best player in the world.

If you ever watched MJ and you watched game 3 of the recent NBA finals you'd understand the difference. I'm not saying for sure MJ is overall better...but that's the exact type of situation where he's leaps and bounds better than LBJ.

I'm not even sure it would be possible for 5 guys to have MJ's drive, it probably requires 1 or 2 driving the others like sled dogs.

 

[bringmagicback]

My opinion:
Lebron: Guy is to big and to strong. Can defend (not the best defender) can bully whoever he is guarding if he wants to. 5 of him would be a handful vs 5 of someone else. Would dominate the paint against smaller defenders and would out rebound most logical arguments in this discussion.

MJ: Widely regarded as the best player ever. Probably the strongest (at his position) of his era. Great defender and offensive player. I feel he would give up a little bit of size and strength to Lebron on rebounding and defense. Much better shooter than lebron. probably worse at getting to the basket that King

Larry Bird: Combines all the great skills of MJ and Lebron. I honestly dont know how you would not put him at the top. For people stating "will himself to win" Larry Bird was the master. All time great passer and shooter. Incredible post up and midrange game with a deadly outside shot. Would probably be unanimous at the top of this list had he and Jordan's timelines flip flopped.

Magic: Lakers fan until I die. Nick Van Exel posters on my wall as a kid. Magic was Royce white but 100 x better. Rebound, block shots, steals, assists, score. triple double machine. He has all the skills necessary to play all 5 positions and he did. Even played center on a championship team. going off the ridiculous "refusal to lose" scale he is a 10/10. May struggle with James strength. Most likely wont bounce balls off his own face however.

Kobe Bryant while as a lakers fan I feel is an all time great lacks the strength to compete against the above mentioned.

IMO this list is restricted to people able to play the SF position utilizing size as well as speed and skill. Larger players lack speed smaller players lack size. And for this reason the above mentioned players are the only options.

 

[bringmagicback]

To put it in real word example terms...
Your team is down 0-2 in the Finals
You've just lost control of a game 3 you led the entire way.
40 seconds left and a full shot clock.
You're the best player in the world.

If you ever watched MJ and you watched game 3 of the recent NBA finals you'd understand the difference. I'm not saying for sure MJ is overall better...but that's the exact type of situation where he's leaps and bounds better than LBJ.

I'm not even sure it would be possible for 5 guys to have MJ's drive, it probably requires 1 or 2 driving the others like sled dogs.

Your team is down 3-1 in the finals in 2016
Youve just lost control of the series
A whole game 5 to deal with this mess
Youre the best player in the world currently

If you ever watched LBJ and you watched last years playoffs (or this years) youd understand the difference. Im not saying for sure LBJ is better overall......but thats the exact type of situation where hes leaps and bounds better than MJ.
Im not even sure it would be possible for 5 guys to have LBJ's drive, it probably requires 1 or 2 driving the others like sled dogs.

Lebron went 41 16 and 7 in that game. Averaged a tripple double this finals against a team leaps and bounds better than the bulls faced. Lets be real here. I want to believe that Magic is better than bird without question.butttt..........

 

[bringmagicback]

btw I hate lebron as much as the next bulls fan

 

[HFCS]

Your team is down 3-1 in the finals in 2016
Youve just lost control of the series
A whole game 5 to deal with this mess
Youre the best player in the world currently

If you ever watched LBJ and you watched last years playoffs (or this years) youd understand the difference. Im not saying for sure LBJ is better overall......but thats the exact type of situation where hes leaps and bounds better than MJ.
Im not even sure it would be possible for 5 guys to have LBJ's drive, it probably requires 1 or 2 driving the others like sled dogs.

Lebron went 41 16 and 7 in that game. Averaged a tripple double this finals against a team leaps and bounds better than the bulls faced. Lets be real here. I want to believe that Magic is better than bird without question.butttt..........

1. Magic was better than Bird. Just slightly before injuries but definitely with injuries coming into play.

2. You really watched MJ's entire career and LBJ's entire career and don't think LeBron defers and fades away in big moments more often than MJ? Come on man, you've got to just be trying to be the contrarian. I'm not even saying it automatically makes MJ the better player, but overall he's better in fourth quarters of big games. He's not just going to happily stand there as another player dribbles out the clock and hoists a hail mary to lose the game, if it did happen heads would roll. It's why some hate him, but he was good enough that it was the smart thing. LeBron succeeded big time last year in the playoffs (maybe best finals performance I've seen) because it's when he was MOST like MJ in his career, at other times in other finals he's actually played well below his season averages which is a laugher to think of MJ doing. Game 3 was a head scratcher, he wasn't in control of a crucial game at all down the stretch.

I like LeBron (didn't care for the Miami celebrations before they played a game but otherwise have always cheered for him). I can be honest about what he's better at than MJ (plenty of things) and what he's worse at. He's clearly worse at closing out big games, it doesn't mean he isn't still great at it, but MJ is the best ever and clearly better in the final minute.

 

[bringmagicback]

Are you actually being serious with this?

I'd enjoy watching 5 pre-drug weight Kemps play hoops.

ya I would enjoy it too, not arguing that. If we were playing NBA jam. I might take more offense to your rodman mention to be honest and this is coming from a guy with an autographed rodman jersey framed in his basement (pistons obviously).

 

[madguy30]

ya I would enjoy it too, not arguing that. If we were playing NBA jam. I might take more offense to your rodman mention to be honest and this is coming from a guy with an autographed rodman jersey framed in his basement (pistons obviously).

OK.

 

[bringmagicback]

1. Magic was better than Bird. Just slightly before injuries but definitely with injuries coming into play.

2. You really watched MJ's entire career and LBJ's entire career and don't think LeBron defers and fades away in big moments more often than MJ? Come on man, you've got to just be trying to be the contrarian. I'm not even saying it automatically makes MJ the better player, but overall he's better in fourth quarters of big games. He's not just going to happily stand there as another player dribbles out the clock and hoists a hail mary to lose the game, if it did happen heads would roll. It's why some hate him, but he was good enough that it was the smart thing. LeBron succeeded big time last year in the playoffs (maybe best finals performance I've seen) because it's when he was MOST like MJ in his career, at other times in other finals he's actually played well below his season averages which is a laugher to think of MJ doing. Game 3 was a head scratcher, he wasn't in control of a crucial game at all down the stretch.

First of all it is against my religion to argue bird and magic. So let that go. LBJ def fades in big moments and in no way am I saying he is better than MJ. I am saying the points you brought up dont make MJ better in a 5 on 5 clone competition. I think Lebron is to physical and strong to lose to MJ. I think Bird (while not as physical as MJ probably) stands a better chance. End of day, Lebron probably wins. Actually f that. Bird for the title in clone 5v5.

 

[VeloClone]

Surprised Micheal Keaton has yet to make anyone's list.

 

[mj4cy]

Dekembe....definitely Dekembe....5 fingers waiving at you is instant intimidation.

 

[Omaha Cy]

If/when Lebron comes up small in the 4th qtr, I believe his size plays a role. That's a lot of muscle mass to drag up and down the court for 48 minutes. He was sucking some serious wind in the 2nd half of games vs GS this series.

I'm not sure who I would go with, but it would be really hard for me to pass on 5 Magics. Easily the most complete player of the 80's era.

I already know that Megadeth would also choose 5 Magics...hehehehehe .

 

[Omaha Cy]

When 1 Marcus Smart flopped, would the whole team flop, like a big game of table soccer?

 

[Bryce7]

5 Wilt Chamberlains to crush them.

 

[VeloClone]

When 1 Marcus Smart flopped, would the whole team flop, like a big game of table soccer?

Imagine Smarts v. Boshes

 

[Playboi Carti]

5 Allen Iversons would be really fun to watch

 

[VeloClone]

5 Allen Iversons would be really fun to watch

Are they going to play the game with 5 basketballs?

 

[jbindm]

I'll take five of pre-injury problems Penny Hardaway. One of the better all-around players I've seen since I've been watching the NBA.

 

[Cycsk]

To put it in real world example terms...
Your team is down 0-2 in the Finals
You've just lost control of a game 3 you led the entire way.
40 seconds left and a full shot clock.
You're the best player in the world.

If you ever watched MJ and you watched game 3 of the recent NBA finals you'd understand the difference. I'm not saying for sure MJ is overall better...but that's the exact type of situation where he's leaps and bounds better than LBJ.

I'm not even sure it would be possible for 5 guys to have MJ's drive, it probably requires 1 or 2 driving the others like sled dogs.

I was in Chicago for the Bulls run and love MJ. But I think people tend to remember only the championships. I remember the losses to the Pistons in the playoffs. Doug Collins was fired because he could only get the team from Point A to Point B, but not to Point C. When they changed coaches, Jordan became a champion. He had plenty of losses prior to that.

 

[cyclonespiker33]

To put it in real world example terms...
Your team is down 0-2 in the Finals
You've just lost control of a game 3 you led the entire way.
40 seconds left and a full shot clock.
You're the best player in the world.

If you ever watched MJ and you watched game 3 of the recent NBA finals you'd understand the difference. I'm not saying for sure MJ is overall better...but that's the exact type of situation where he's leaps and bounds better than LBJ.

I'm not even sure it would be possible for 5 guys to have MJ's drive, it probably requires 1 or 2 driving the others like sled dogs.

In that scenario Jordan wouldn't have passed to Korver and got blocked by Durant instead.

 

[GTO]

5 Allen Iversons would be really fun to watch

But will they practice?