The funniest part of this thread and the 2 others with reasons and arguments over why "support is down" is that the game in question is going to sell out and, as has been pointed out, based on opponent, would never have sold out in previous seasons.
Which shows how much opponents matter generating excitement. Nearly ranked in top 15 and it’s barely a sellout. We won’t have Texas and Oklahoma on the home schedule again, and lost Missouri and Nebraska a long time ago. Finding a way to sell out games going forward is going to be very hard unless we are ranked or playing Iowa every other year.The funniest part of this thread and the 2 others with reasons and arguments over why "support is down" is that the game in question is going to sell out and, as has been pointed out, based on opponent, would never have sold out in previous seasons.
But that doesn't represent only 6,000 individuals. Very few Cyclone Club ticket purchases are for a single seat. I don't have a Cyclone Club membership but our group pools resources so we can get an RV pass for our bus. That requires a minimum Captain level donation plus the price tag on the pass itself.Is the CC number still 6K….thats what it was years ago. Brutal. No doubt that a large percentage of WW donors are the same.
Which shows how much opponents matter generating excitement. Nearly ranked in top 15 and it’s barely a sellout. We won’t have Texas and Oklahoma on the home schedule again, and lost Missouri and Nebraska a long time ago. Finding a way to sell out games going forward is going to be very hard unless we are ranked or playing Iowa every other year.
For sure but we aren’t the only fan base that does that. Our total number of donors has plateaued and we have one of the lowest totals versus our peers.But that doesn't represent only 6,000 individuals. Very few Cyclone Club ticket purchases are for a single seat. I don't have a Cyclone Club membership but our group pools resources so we can get an RV pass for our bus. That requires a minimum Captain level donation plus the price tag on the pass itself.
This is pretty much the reason, no need to really dig further.
You aren't factoring in how far someone may have to drive. 4 hours is just the game time, that isn't including traffic to and from and maybe they get an hour or 2 early to tailgate if they are lucky. Just for me 45 minutes from Ames if I am tailgating it's nearly a full day away from my family most games. At minimum if I was just going to the game it would be 6+ hours of time: 4 for the game, 1.5 hours of drive time not including the additional time I would be waiting in traffic just to get in/out of town so even then I would say its closer to 8 hours if I skipped the tailgating I normally do for 5-6 hours in advance. I have season tickets with 2 guys, 1 that drives 2 hours 1 way and farms and the other drives nearly 3 hours 1 way so both have a significant time commitment just to drive to and from the game.
Don't give me this crap that "it's only 4 hours to attend a game." Maybe if you live in Ames it is but I bet you there are people here that drive from out of state even to get to games on a regular basis that would disagree. I'm going to defend the farmers from ridiculous statements like this. It's not as simple as you claim and to top that off they likely are putting in some long hours right now too so I can't imagine for some of them that have to drive longer distances that getting home after midnight for a night game already on short rest sounds like a lot of fun when they can listen to John and Eric in the combine or tractor or maybe stop a little early for the evening and watch it with their family at home and get to bed at a decent time.
That’s part of why we park on campus, to get out of town faster.You aren't factoring in how far someone may have to drive. 4 hours is just the game time, that isn't including traffic to and from and maybe they get an hour or 2 early to tailgate if they are lucky. Just for me 45 minutes from Ames if I am tailgating it's nearly a full day away from my family most games. At minimum if I was just going to the game it would be 6+ hours of time: 4 for the game, 1.5 hours of drive time not including the additional time I would be waiting in traffic just to get in/out of town so even then I would say its closer to 8 hours if I skipped the tailgating I normally do for 5-6 hours in advance. I have season tickets with 2 guys, 1 that drives 2 hours 1 way and farms and the other drives nearly 3 hours 1 way so both have a significant time commitment just to drive to and from the game.
Don't give me this crap that "it's only 4 hours to attend a game." Maybe if you live in Ames it is but I bet you there are people here that drive from out of state even to get to games on a regular basis that would disagree. I'm going to defend the farmers from ridiculous statements like this. It's not as simple as you claim and to top that off they likely are putting in some long hours right now too so I can't imagine for some of them that have to drive longer distances that getting home after midnight for a night game already on short rest sounds like a lot of fun when they can listen to John and Eric in the combine or tractor or maybe stop a little early for the evening and watch it with their family at home and get to bed at a decent time.
I just think you need to lay off singling out farmers when you don't have first hand experience of their lives around this time of the year. This is along the same lines of arguments we have around here like the lack of student attendance at games when some of them literally live across the street from Hilton and walking distance from JTS. These arguments trying to single out certain people for not attending games is pointless and unnecessary divisiveness amongst our fans. Am I a bad fan for missing a game if my kids have something going on at the same time? I've missed some of my kids things to go to games and have to explain that to them so I've been on both sides of reasons for not making a game. Am I not a good fan since I don't donate to the NCC or We Will Collective? It's not productive to be negative towards certain parts of our fanbase, we all want ISU to succeed, and we all have our own reasons and circumstances of why we support at the levels we do.I drive 3.5 hours each way for games.
Do you disagree that other industries work weekends and people still make the games?
We are double badI was wondering when the Bad Fan thread would get started, and as luck would have it we have two of them going on at the same time.
The funniest part of this thread and the 2 others with reasons and arguments over why "support is down" is that the game in question is going to sell out and, as has been pointed out, based on opponent, would never have sold out in previous seasons.
Idk, I’d say the weather window for harvest is pretty darn critical. It’s been easier the past few falls since we’ve had warm dry weather, but obviously it’s not always like that. Plus depends on how many acres you have. Many can’t afford to skip a good weather Saturday to go watch football.I find farming to be an interesting excuse. Everyone has their situation obviously but for me, the weather window for planting is more critical than harvest. I just started yesterday and have a lot of acres. I'm on the east side of the state so 3 hour drive to Ames. We have season tickets. I am taking Saturday off to go to the game. I will fire back up on beans on Sunday. I will take the 19th off.
I will do field work as long as the weather allows and still make it over for the Tech and Cincy games. I can't plan to be in the fields at Thanksgiving time like I was last year as the weather cooperated. Regardless, that wouldn't affect us from making the KSU game too.
I would miss games if they played in the spring.