Anyone else hearing that JP has already decided Prohm is coming back?

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Any one thinking that Fred is a possibility is smoking some good weed. Fred’s buyout to come here would be close to $10 million. Then add in the $3.5 million or so salary plus the $500k retention bonuses. We have a buyout for Prohm around $5.3 million. And there is absolutely No Guarantee that Fred would be successful again. All of the Coaching Candidates have some elements of risk. But Fred’s Price Tag is way too much.
 

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Any one thinking that Fred is a possibility is smoking some good weed. Fred’s buyout to come here would be close to $10 million. Then add in the $3.5 million or so salary plus the $500k retention bonuses. We have a buyout for Prohm around $5.3 million. And there is absolutely No Guarantee that Fred would be successful again. All of the Coaching Candidates have some elements of risk. But Fred’s Price Tag is way too much.
Whether it is or isn’t Fred people on this board need to stop pretending they know anything about the dollars involved. Not only is everything up for negotiation we don’t know who might be involved in either side with deep pockets to make things happen. Also, whatever “buyout” has to be paid is basically net of his salary anyway. In other words we’re going to pay him 2 million dollars if we don’t fire him so the “buyout” is only a net 3.3 if 5.3 is correct.
 

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Whether it is or isn’t Fred people on this board need to stop pretending they know anything about the dollars involved. Not only is everything up for negotiation we don’t know who might be involved in either side with deep pockets to make things happen. Also, whatever “buyout” has to be paid is basically net of his salary anyway. In other words we’re going to pay him 2 million dollars if we don’t fire him so the “buyout” is only a net 3.3 if 5.3 is correct.

Providing your new coach works for free, otherwise you may wish to add another salary to your math. Just saying.
 

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Whether it is or isn’t Fred people on this board need to stop pretending they know anything about the dollars involved. Not only is everything up for negotiation we don’t know who might be involved in either side with deep pockets to make things happen. Also, whatever “buyout” has to be paid is basically net of his salary anyway. In other words we’re going to pay him 2 million dollars if we don’t fire him so the “buyout” is only a net 3.3 if 5.3 is correct.

In terms of negotiations Prohm has the upper hand. No way is he going to negotiate a lower payment. The terms of payments is most likely the negotiation. And Nebraska is not going to negotiate a lower buyout for Fred. They won‘t do it. Plus I don’t think that JP wants to send a message that we just recklessly throw money around. We don’t have that type of money for one thing. And our monetary resources are going to be needed to keep Matt Campbell and Staff. That is #1 Priority.
 

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In terms of negotiations Prohm has the upper hand. No way is he going to negotiate a lower payment. The terms of payments is most likely the negotiation. And Nebraska is not going to negotiate a lower buyout for Fred. They won‘t do it. Plus I don’t think that JP wants to send a message that we just recklessly throw money around. We don’t have that type of money for one thing. And our monetary resources are going to be needed to keep Matt Campbell and Staff. That is #1 Priority.

Think any negotiation with Prohm's buyout will be whether or not he gets a lump sum, or some sort of payment plan. He's certainly free to not demand all the money, but it's not in his best interest to refuse the contractually-obligated buyout amount.
 

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So Rick Pitino will be our next coach?
JP wouldn't even give it 3 seconds of consideration. Is he a worse human that Billy Gillespie because there was a desire from some fans whenever his train went off the tracks.
 

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In terms of negotiations Prohm has the upper hand. No way is he going to negotiate a lower payment. The terms of payments is most likely the negotiation. And Nebraska is not going to negotiate a lower buyout for Fred. They won‘t do it. Plus I don’t think that JP wants to send a message that we just recklessly throw money around. We don’t have that type of money for one thing. And our monetary resources are going to be needed to keep Matt Campbell and Staff. That is #1 Priority.
Regardless, the buyout is net of his salary. And here you go thinking you know who’s standing behind Jamie with the money to do whatever they want. The numbers available to us are just the face of it.
 

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Whether it is or isn’t Fred people on this board need to stop pretending they know anything about the dollars involved. Not only is everything up for negotiation we don’t know who might be involved in either side with deep pockets to make things happen. Also, whatever “buyout” has to be paid is basically net of his salary anyway. In other words we’re going to pay him 2 million dollars if we don’t fire him so the “buyout” is only a net 3.3 if 5.3 is correct.

I love that people keep throwing out there the "donors will pay for it" angle. We have some good donors but we don't have Texas donors who just throw money around. Look how hard it was to get funding for actual tangible projects like the South Endzone, the Bergstrom Facility and the New Performance Center. These were years in the making so I don't believe for one minute that "donors" will pony up millions for buyouts when they are reluctant to pony up millions for actual facilities that have been needed for a very long time.
 

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In terms of negotiations Prohm has the upper hand. No way is he going to negotiate a lower payment. The terms of payments is most likely the negotiation. And Nebraska is not going to negotiate a lower buyout for Fred. They won‘t do it. Plus I don’t think that JP wants to send a message that we just recklessly throw money around. We don’t have that type of money for one thing. And our monetary resources are going to be needed to keep Matt Campbell and Staff. That is #1 Priority.
Someone needs to produce some pictures of him groping goats or something.
 

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I love that people keep throwing out there the "donors will pay for it" angle. We have some good donors but we don't have Texas donors who just throw money around. Look how hard it was to get funding for actual tangible projects like the South Endzone, the Bergstrom Facility and the New Performance Center. These were years in the making so I don't believe for one minute that "donors" will pony up millions for buyouts when they are reluctant to pony up millions for actual facilities that have been needed for a very long time.
Nothing is more tangible than spending on improved coaching.
Getting donors to pony up has been a weakness of JP’s but there’s been more donor support for MBB coaching than since 2015 than you’re implying. Likely because they know spending on coaches is more important than arms race facility spending.
 
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Think any negotiation with Prohm's buyout will be whether or not he gets a lump sum, or some sort of payment plan. He's certainly free to not demand all the money, but it's not in his best interest to refuse the contractually-obligated buyout amount.
Do you think Prohm wants to come back? What would he do if the options were come back for 2021-22 after firing your staff, or leave for your new home in Kentucky with 80% pay?
 
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Any one thinking that Fred is a possibility is smoking some good weed. Fred’s buyout to come here would be close to $10 million. Then add in the $3.5 million or so salary plus the $500k retention bonuses. We have a buyout for Prohm around $5.3 million. And there is absolutely No Guarantee that Fred would be successful again. All of the Coaching Candidates have some elements of risk. But Fred’s Price Tag is way too much.

You don't have a clue what you're talking about
 
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