Another B12 win
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The Vest had a great offensive game plan with the QB's. The blitz, blitz, blitz scheme ended up costing them the game. He wins Big Televen games with talent and loses bowl games with coaching.
That PI call was ridiculous. I'll give you the point about McGhee. The only person that mentioned "luck" in this thread was you. The Big Televen and tOSU is down and they have been down. Just own it and we are on the same page.
An Iowa State fan criticizing Ohio State's performance in big games??That's classic! :biglaugh: I would kill for Iowa State to achieve the same level of "failure" that Ohio State's program has.
Leave the Clones out of this and let us enjoy what little we have this season.
I don't know... maybe as many as Oklahoma? Ohio State is now 4-3 in BCS games. Oklahoma is 2-4. Who deserves to get kicked out first?
The Pac-10 is 5-0 in their bowl games; including wins against the Big 10 and Big XII.
Taking pleasure in the misery of other football programs? Wow! We've apparently reached a new low, even for us. Don't let me stop your revelry. Snivel away!
If you really think Texas would not have any competition in the big 12, than you apparently watched a different game than I did tonite.
Last year OSU overachieved big time to make it to the championship game...I was pretty proud of their efforts. Had any of the 5 other heavyweight teams not lost on the last weekend than OSU would not have played in that game, but that is not OSU's fault that other teams didn't take care of their business. OSU was unbeaten going into the game against Florida...no debating they deserved to be there....including a road victory over Texas (remember).
I'll give you that; OU shouldn't have even been playing in the Big 12 title game. The big difference is OSU beat no one to get to this game. OU deserved it way more. OSU shouldn't be able to lose to the only 2 good teams they played this year, be on a BCS bowl skid, and get another chance.
The Pac Ten has pathetic bowl tie-ins that leads them to play generally poor teams. Not to mention the atrocious bottom of the Pac Ten is the reason they are the worst conference. The bowls do not change that.
I stand corrected. I apologize for insulting the Pac-10 with the comparison. That was a low blow. how about it would be like Justin Timberlake versus the rest of N'SYNC?
Spin it however you want. I couldn't care less about the Pac-10. I was merely pointing out they were undefeated in their bowl games.
National Champions = Utah
If they haven't played anyone and you don't put them up against the best, how do we prove they aren't the best?
If they haven't played anyone and you don't put them up against the best, how do we prove they aren't the best?
I believe UT would dominate the Big Televen. tOSU is the only team that even comes close to matching their overall team speed year in and year out.
I can't argue your second point about tOSU last year (especially considering I don't believe there were any arrests or investigations) but that only proves my point more. The Big Televen is not an elite conference. They are not as good as the Big 12 or SEC. I really don't feel like I am going out on a limb here.
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That is fine. I was also merely pointing out they are still a terrible conference despite that.
"Even for us?" Jeezus dude. I know we can be a little self depricating but that is a flat out self image problem. Look in the mirror with a Cyclone jersey and tell yourself you love you. I am enjoying a confernec win over a rival conference. And I think tOUSU is overrated and dirty so yes I root against them. It's called sports.
I don't completely disagree with you on that, but let me play devil's advocate. Outside of the BCS Championship Game, the BCS officials and their bowl game partners care about one thing only in choosing the at-large selections for the BCS games -- money. And Ohio State practically guarantess them money because (1) the Buckeyes provide good television ratings, and (2) the Ohio State fans descend like a swarm of locusts on whatever city is hosting their bowl game and drop serious coin into the local economy.
Why do the Buckeyes generate TV ratings? Why do they have so many fans who make Ohio State an attractive draw for any bowl game? Because the football team has won a whole heckuva lot of football games over the years and has been ridiculously successful. They're easily one of the top teams football programs in the country, year in and year out. And it's been that way for like a hundred years. So, maybe they do "deserve" to be there.
Reread my post that you responded to and you have your answer. I already said that the big 10 was down...but that doesn't abolish all of there efforts. OSU's program is in very good shape....even through attrition of coaches they have managed to field a good team every year. Not many programs can say that. So no, I don't think OSU is down. Look, they can't be in national championship form every year. Is that what you expect? If so, I appreciate the complement. I think the ceiling is pretty high on Pryor too....more good things to come.
The Big Ten got exactly what it deserved...1-6 in the bowls. Now, it's time for all the Big Ten lovers to crawl back into their holes until next year's bowl season melt down...
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