Ankeny water ban

NoCreativity

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I didn’t know this was a thing/there were issues, but why would someone be watering their lawn now anyway? The grass is growing/staying perfectly green on its own…
I had to repair a bunch of grass in my yard this spring. I spent alot of money reseeding it and the parts that aren't established enough will die if we don't get some rain.

Yeah, I understand it's first world problems, but it's really irritating they have to let it come to this before actually trying to get to the root of the issue.
 

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And meanwhile there is still heavy flow being let out of Saylorville right now running right through the city that nobody has thought to use within the last 60 years.


??? Correct me if I'm wrong but the two main sources are the Des Moines River and the Raccoon River. The Des Moines River flows out of Saylorville.
 

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And meanwhile there is still heavy flow being let out of Saylorville right now running right through the city that nobody has thought to use within the last 60 years.
The Des Moines River is an option to blend, but more expensive due to pumping distance. Cyanobacteria blooms in Big Creek have made this source very unreliable though and those nitrates are also about as high right now.
 

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??? Correct me if I'm wrong but the two main sources are the Des Moines River and the Raccoon River. The Des Moines River flows out of Saylorville.
No, they currently have zero capabilities to pull from the Des Moines River that I know. They decided to use the Racoon for whatever reason back in the 1800s to pull water. Then they created Moffitt Lake as the backup back in the 40s.
 
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I had to repair a bunch of grass in my yard this spring. I spent alot of money reseeding it and the parts that aren't established enough will die if we don't get some rain.

Yeah, I understand it's first world problems, but it's really irritating they have to let it come to this before actually trying to get to the root of the issue.
I think there is an exception for new plants/lawns.
 
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The Des Moines River is an option to blend, but more expensive due to pumping distance. Cyanobacteria blooms in Big Creek have made this source very unreliable though and those nitrates are also about as high right now.
Where do they pump from the Des Moines? That seems like a very expensive and inefficient option as the treatment plant isn't really that close to the Des Moines River.
 

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No, they currently have zero capabilities to pull from the Des Moines River that I know. They decided to use the Racoon for whatever reason back in the 1800s to pull water. Then they created Moffitt Lake as the backup back in the 40s.

From the DMWW website

Where Does Your Water Come From?
The Raccoon and Des Moines Rivers are used to provide drinking water to more than 500,000
Central Iowans. Upstream land use practices – agricultural and urban – have a direct effect on
water quality and quantity for downstream users. All Iowans should Think Downstream and
consider how they can help make Iowa’s water safe for drinking and recreation.

The Fleur Drive Treatment Plant has the flexibility to draw water from either the Raccoon River or the Des Moines River, in addition to the Infiltration Gallery (a series of underground pipes located throughout Water Works Park adjacent to the Raccoon River). The Gallery collects water from the same shallow groundwater as the L.D. McMullen plant. In an emergency situation, the Fleur plant can draw up to 6 billion gallons of water from the Saylorville Reservoir. Des Moines Water Works’ plant operators, along with laboratory staff, select the river source that has the highest quality water.

The L.D. McMullen Water Treatment Plant at Maffitt Reservoir treats water from six radial collector wells and one horizontal well along the Raccoon River. The collection elements are located in the coarse sand and gravel formation beneath the river. The shallow groundwater receives natural filtration prior to entry into the wells. The 1.3 billion gallon Maffitt Reservoir serves as an emergency supply for the the McMullen plant.

The Saylorville Water Treatment Plant treats water from two radial collector wells along the Des Moines River.
 

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I'm not exactly sure.

DMWW Water Treatment process

The Fleur Drive Treatment Plant has the flexibility to draw water from either the Raccoon River or the Des Moines River, in addition to the Infiltration Gallery (a series of underground pipes located throughout Water Works Park adjacent to the Raccoon River). The Gallery collects water from the same shallow groundwater as the L.D. McMullen plant. In an emergency situation, the Fleur plant can draw up to 6 billion gallons of water from the Saylorville Reservoir. Des Moines Water Works’ plant operators, along with laboratory staff, select the river source that has the highest quality water.
 
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No, they currently have zero capabilities to pull from the Des Moines River that I know. They decided to use the Racoon for whatever reason back in the 1800s to pull water. Then they created Moffitt Lake as the backup back in the 40s.
What about the DMWW Building off of NW 26th Street between Johnston and Ankeny? As far as I know, they are pulling water out of the Des Moines River directly West of the facility. I know we did some RO work in there 10 or so years ago.
 
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I didn’t know this was a thing/there were issues, but why would someone be watering their lawn now anyway? The grass is growing/staying perfectly green on its own…
Yup, I was just thinking the same thing last night when I was playing with the kids outside. Just mow it a bit higher too and the dew it catches also helps keep a little extra moisture too. Part of the reason yards brown out faster is setting the mow height too short. I see it in my neighborhood where guys think if they mow it shorter they won't have to mow as much but leaving it a little longer and not mowing it as frequently is going to keep it green longer when it gets hot and dry.

As far as the cause to the nitrate levels we are just as much to blame in the city as there is blame in rural areas too. All the development and concrete that is replacing farmland and the over-fertilizing of commercial and residential properties that just runs off into the storm sewers and creeks eventually wind up in our rivers too. And as mentioned some of the high water users are commercial clients that weren't here before that add a strain on the water supply. Not trying to turn this into an argument but everyone in general both city and rural need to do their parts to help limit the nitrates that wind up in our water sources.
 

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What about the DMWW Building off of NW 26th Street between Johnston and Ankeny? As far as I know, they are pulling water out of the Des Moines River directly West of the facility. I know we did some RO work in there 10 or so years ago.
Yeah, I wasn't aware of all that. I know someone that worked in public works that told me all this info, but he retired over 20 years ago so may not be aware of any additional work they've done to tap into the outflow from Saylorville.
 

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Maybe I'm just an ******* (hint: I am), but anyone know if you can rat people out? Let's just say there are a few neighbors in my neighborhood I don't care for and I noticed they were watering this AM....

Des Moines Water Works has set up a dedicated phone line to report violations: 515-323-6247.
 

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Right? My lawn loves the extra nitrates in the water. It’s got electrolytes. Why wouldn’t I keep dumping this on my lawn.

When it rains my lawn sighs and pouts and says, “What is this ****** sky water? Diet water?”
 

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Yup, I was just thinking the same thing last night when I was playing with the kids outside. Just mow it a bit higher too and the dew it catches also helps keep a little extra moisture too. Part of the reason yards brown out faster is setting the mow height too short. I see it in my neighborhood where guys think if they mow it shorter they won't have to mow as much but leaving it a little longer and not mowing it as frequently is going to keep it green longer when it gets hot and dry.

As far as the cause to the nitrate levels we are just as much to blame in the city as there is blame in rural areas too. All the development and concrete that is replacing farmland and the over-fertilizing of commercial and residential properties that just runs off into the storm sewers and creeks eventually wind up in our rivers too. And as mentioned some of the high water users are commercial clients that weren't here before that add a strain on the water supply. Not trying to turn this into an argument but everyone in general both city and rural need to do their parts to help limit the nitrates that wind up in our water sources.
Don’t want to cave this, but as far as actual total mass load of nitrate, all of our residential lawns are small potatoes compared to the millions of acres of tile drained crop land in Iowa. Urbanization certainly increases water use (and causes stormwater management issues) and lawns and golf courses have high amounts of fertilizer applied, but the sheer amount of crop land far outweighs that.
 

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Maybe I'm just an ******* (hint: I am), but anyone know if you can rat people out? Let's just say there are a few neighbors in my neighborhood I don't care for and I noticed they were watering this AM....

In fairness to those folks they may not even be aware of this yet as the news is less than 24 hours old. Wednesday they asked people to cut back on watering, warning that if they don't they will have to ban watering altogether. Then just one day later they banned it. It'll take some time for the news to filter out and some will miss it entirely.
 

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In fairness to those folks they may not even be aware of this yet as the news is less than 24 hours old. Wednesday they asked people to cut back on watering, warning that if they don't they will have to ban watering altogether. Then just one day later they banned it. It'll take some time for the news to filter out and some will miss it entirely.

I'm in that boat. Didn't realize there was a ban until reading this thread today.
 
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I logged three miles through residential area this morning and never saw any wet gutter. Went toward Delaware and the office park on SE Oak Tree Court had the sprinklers watering the streets full bore. Elwell Props., I believe.
 
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