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[12191987]

I am also not a biblical scholar or someone who claims to be an expert on matters of faith/religion. I have my own struggles with my faith and how to practice it in everyday life.

However, with the issue at hand, I am highly skeptical that there is any contradiction on what profane usage of God's name entails in any book of the Bible.

I would be hard pressed to find any serious theologians or church leaders that would find it permissible to use the Lord's name in a crass manner.

ThI point of it is that these texts can and are interpreted and reinterpreted in many ways to promote different worldviews across different sects at different times. In this case, even different religions.

The 3rd commandment is, obviously, Hebrew in origin. It had a very specific meaning: Don’t make a promise in God’s name your ass isn’t prepared to keep. It was totally accepted practice across Judaism at the time to make such promises.

That changed for a large swath of Jews (still pre-Jesus) for whom saying the name aloud became verboten.

Christianity didn’t take on that rule, and originally and for most of Christianity’s existence, that commandment was reinterpreted to mean to not proclaim to be a follower of Jesus and then behave in a manner contradictory to the teachings.

I don’t mean to hurt your feelings, but that long-time understanding of this commandment is problematic for a lot of modern, American Christianity. That is not a particularly controversial statement.

This notion that the 3rd commandment is about saying the name aloud (particularly in a “profane”) manner is a very modern invention, peculiar to a subset of Christian sects predominantly (solely?) emanating from the US.

Again, I’m not a bible scholar. I don’t read Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek (languages used in most of the source texts for the bibles). I’m just regurgitating the scholarly consensus as I understand it as a layperson.

 

[harimad]

Hey good to see you

It's nice to be back

 

[AgronAlum]

This is a ******* great commercial. Jesus Christ would ******* love it.

 

[12191987]

This is a ******* great commercial. Jesus Christ would ******* love it.

Is it projection to interpret this commercial as an absolutely caustic send-up of the infantile, performative ******** of using euphemisms like “fudge” in place of “****”?

 

[CyMissile]

ThI point of it is that these texts can and are interpreted and reinterpreted in many ways to promote different worldviews across different sects at different times. In this case, even different religions.

The 3rd commandment is, obviously, Hebrew in origin. It had a very specific meaning: Don’t make a promise in God’s name your ass isn’t prepared to keep. It was totally accepted practice across Judaism at the time to make such promises.

That changed for a large swath of Jews (still pre-Jesus) for whom saying the name aloud became verboten.

Christianity didn’t take on that rule, and originally and for most of Christianity’s existence, that commandment was reinterpreted to mean to not proclaim to be a follower of Jesus and then behave in a manner contradictory to the teachings.

I don’t mean to hurt your feelings, but that long-time understanding of this commandment is problematic for a lot of modern, American Christianity. That is not a particularly controversial statement.

This notion that the 3rd commandment is about saying the name aloud (particularly in a “profane”) manner is a very modern invention, peculiar to a subset of Christian sects predominantly (solely?) emanating from the US.

Again, I’m not a bible scholar. I don’t read Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek (languages used in most of the source texts for the bibles). I’m just regurgitating the scholarly consensus as I understand it as a layperson.

No hurt feelings here and I appreciate your detailed response!

The beginning of your post is 100% correct; don't swear by God if you aren't going to keep that oath/promise and don't proclaim to be Christian and conduct yourself contrary to the faith. I am in complete agreement with these statements.

Where we deviate seems to be on the concept of modern American Christianity inventing a new meaning of the commandment. The earliest days of the Church have always maintained that the oath-breaking along with the blasphemous, profane, or disrespectful usage is immoral and sinful.

This is affirmed through various writings of some of the earliest saints and Church fathers (St. James and St. Augustin, respectively) while also appearing in major Church theological councils during the Middle Ages and Renaissance eras.

The Protestant Reformation, while breaking from the Catholic Church on various faith doctrines, also maintained this teaching during the split.

This is not a modern American Christian invention in the slightest. It is one of the cornerstones of the Christian faith from the beginning.

 

[SwirlyBird]

No hurt feelings here and I appreciate your detailed response!

The beginning of your post is 100% correct; don't swear by God if you aren't going to keep that oath/promise and don't proclaim to be Christian and conduct yourself contrary to the faith. I am in complete agreement with these statements.

Where we deviate seems to be on the concept of modern American Christianity inventing a new meaning of the commandment. The earliest days of the Church have always maintained that the oath-breaking along with the blasphemous, profane, or disrespectful usage is immoral and sinful.

This is affirmed through various writings of some of the earliest saints and Church fathers (St. James and St. Augustin, respectively) while also appearing in major Church theological councils during the Middle Ages and Renaissance eras.

The Protestant Reformation, while breaking from the Catholic Church on various faith doctrines, also maintained this teaching during the split.

This is not a modern American Christian invention in the slightest. It is one of the cornerstones of the Christian faith from the beginning.

What are your thoughts on Allah and Muhammad?

 

[madguy30]

Asking bc im genuinely interested:
Is people taking offense to disrespecting lgbtqia2s+, racial or people groups moronic?

Mike Rose used to get called Mike ****ing Rose after making a big play.

Is saying JFC disrespectful, and to whom?

Does it compare to using slurs or disparaging comments towards people that exist?

No.