The fetch of ISU sports?
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The fetch of ISU sports?
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Beyond what Grayer, Davis, and Sanderson did as players, which other thingy players have accomplishments like this?
top 5 ranked team, beat top seed UConn in the NCAA Sweet Sixteen, won ave. of 26 games per year. Her records include scoring (2,149), rebounding (1,209), blocked shots (155), free throws made (557) and free throw attempts (768) She was a three time All-American, and one of 5 wbb players named to the 10th Anniversary All-Big 12 team.
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Yeah this is actually tough. Criteria is critical. I think it has to be more about the impact to ISU in total - not just a great individual performer. And it has to be a long term impact too, a generation or more.
Candidates:
Sanderson - individual only, nope
Troy Davis - individual only, nope (really hard to write that)
Gable - individual only, and more impact to Iowa than ISU
Grayer & Fizer - individual only, nope
Floyd - not here long enough
Eustacy - greatness yes, but the way it ended...
Pete Taylor - not sure he had the impact, except to an older generation of fans, but I still get emotional about Pete. I want to put him up there, but I can't quite get there
Too early:
Pollard - if ISU is a power FB player in 2025 and remains in a major conference after re-alignment, then yeah I think he qualifies
CMC - its only been 2.5 seasons, if he is still here in 2030...
The Top Four:
Orr - he brought the Magic, and was/is a legend
Trice - part of the creation myths, a hero we can aspire to, the stadium is named after him
Hoiberg - golden boy, winning player, brought national attention to ISU as a coach too
Danny Mac - he brought FB back from the grave, could still be in hell without him
I know Mac will be controversial, but seriously, could anyone else have laid the foundation like he did? He was relentless and tireless. I feel like he is ISU's Moses - he led us to the promised land, though he couldn't enter it himself.
Candidates:
Sanderson - individual only, nope
Troy Davis - individual only, nope (really hard to write that)
Gable - individual only, and more impact to Iowa than ISU
Grayer & Fizer - individual only, nope
Floyd - not here long enough
Eustacy - greatness yes, but the way it ended...
Pete Taylor - not sure he had the impact, except to an older generation of fans, but I still get emotional about Pete. I want to put him up there, but I can't quite get there
Too early:
Pollard - if ISU is a power FB player in 2025 and remains in a major conference after re-alignment, then yeah I think he qualifies
CMC - its only been 2.5 seasons, if he is still here in 2030...
The Top Four:
Orr - he brought the Magic, and was/is a legend
Trice - part of the creation myths, a hero we can aspire to, the stadium is named after him
Hoiberg - golden boy, winning player, brought national attention to ISU as a coach too
Danny Mac - he brought FB back from the grave, could still be in hell without him
I know Mac will be controversial, but seriously, could anyone else have laid the foundation like he did? He was relentless and tireless. I feel like he is ISU's Moses - he led us to the promised land, though he couldn't enter it himself.
Sanderson and Davis have done things that literally no one has done in the history of their respective collegiate sports. I get what you're saying as far as criteria, but that's pretty tough to overlook.
I understand 75% of you were not even born yet, and of the remaining 25% of you probably only 2% of you appreciate the sport. But if you want a true Mt Rushmore of something besides Football and Basketball then you kind of have to put Bill Bergan. The man coached 2 NCAA National Championship Cross Country Teams, numerous Big 8 Championships, and is in the US Track and Field Hall of Fame.
But I get it.........so maybe as a consolation prize a Crazy Horse memorial or Stone Mountain face instead ???
But I get it.........so maybe as a consolation prize a Crazy Horse memorial or Stone Mountain face instead ???
I'm sorry but if you left a coaching gig at ISU for another college, you're out and if you made Iowa the best program in the nation, you're out. Thems the rules. To me a mount Rushmore isn't always about "the best" as much as it's about "the most impactful." Who left something more than numbers? Cael? Not really. Gable? Nope. Davis? Maybe. Trice? Absolutely. We still talk about those two seasons a lot. Hoiberg? Most certainly. Orr? Yeah. Pollard? Yeah but he's not done. So my four as of today are:
-Orr
-Hoiberg
-Trice
-Pollard
Orr would be the first one out if something happened with the football program. Next would be Pollard but he could take Hoibergs spot back down the road a ways. This Mount Rushmore should be made out of Play-doh.
-Orr
-Hoiberg
-Trice
-Pollard
Orr would be the first one out if something happened with the football program. Next would be Pollard but he could take Hoibergs spot back down the road a ways. This Mount Rushmore should be made out of Play-doh.
hoiberg
Cael
Troy Davis
pollard mccarney orr ---------but eventually will be Campbell if he sticks around.
My first three are non negotiable to me.
Cael
Troy Davis
pollard mccarney orr ---------but eventually will be Campbell if he sticks around.
My first three are non negotiable to me.
Well then what about Ed Gagnier?
For those that don't know he did more than come out at BB games and host Shoot 5 for 5.
He created the ISU Men's Gymnastic program from scratch. In 20 years of competition his teams won:
10 Big 8 titles
3 National titles
3 Times National Runners-up
18 Individual National Champions
76 Individual Big 8 Champions
7 Undefeated seasons
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Nawal El Moutawakel - Gold medal winner and a pioneer in sports in multiple ways. She's the only one I didn't have to think twice about.
Hoiberg - He wouldn't have made it just as a player alone but he was also a successful coach. As a coach, he made ISU cool.
Cael - I debated about Gable but subtracted points because he coached Iowa. I'd like to agree with Gunner (Stop trying to make wrestling happen) but it is a large part of ISU's history.
Danny Harris - Ended one of the greatest streaks in sports when he beat Edwin Moses.
Others considered:
Troy Davis
Jack Trice
Pete Taylor
Johnny Orr
Grayer
Niang
Hoiberg - He wouldn't have made it just as a player alone but he was also a successful coach. As a coach, he made ISU cool.
Cael - I debated about Gable but subtracted points because he coached Iowa. I'd like to agree with Gunner (Stop trying to make wrestling happen) but it is a large part of ISU's history.
Danny Harris - Ended one of the greatest streaks in sports when he beat Edwin Moses.
Others considered:
Troy Davis
Jack Trice
Pete Taylor
Johnny Orr
Grayer
Niang
Surprised I haven’t seen any consideration even for Hornacek. Arguably the best NBA career of any Cyclone. Idk any other Clone that made it onto NBA Jam.
As an aside, Bobby Utter was a shotgun QB forced to run a triple option. Put Brock in the same situation, and he'd do no better.
Dr. Harold Nichols (greatest coach in ISU history w/ 6 NCAA titles and a TON of NCAA runner-ups)
Johnny Orr- People will never know what he meant to ISU's morale and visibility during what may have been its worst decade ever in the 1980's. Most well known coach at ISU ever.
Fred Hoiberg (perhaps most recognizable ISU athlete ever and one of ISU's greatest student/ athletes) All-American performer and Academic All-American Performer.
Nawal El Moutawakel- greatest ISU female athlete ever and Olympic Champion. One of the most influential ISU grads ever. Incredible thrill watching Al Michaels call her win in LA and having him say Iowa State three times during her event.
5th face
Bill Bergan (2nd greatest ISU coach of all time- most conference titles of anyone and 2 NCAA Crowns)
Ed Gagnier- 3 NCAA titles and olympic and world impact in gymnastics while living in Ames, IA. He was also a very big part of Hilton Magic in the 1980's and 90's after his sport was cut. Hi Ed!
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Um. No. Purdy's started two games and already has played better in two games than Utter's best game (which was a loss to Iowa). Utter had a pretty snappy wardrobe though.
