They really need to trade up this draft for Maye or McCarthy. Justin Jefferson isn’t going to wait around forever for the organization to make moves. He’s probably waiting to see what happens on draft day 1 to sign his massive contract.
What if JJ hates Maye and McCarthy and is in love with Bo Nix and Spencer Rattler.They really need to trade up this draft for Maye or McCarthy. Justin Jefferson isn’t going to wait around forever for the organization to make moves. He’s probably waiting to see what happens on draft day 1 to sign his massive contract.
The ranking in their draft class is meaningless. If it did, you'd consider Jeff Lewis a similar QB prospect to Ben Roethlisberger.
Ponder was the 4th QB picked, but there was really only 1 high end QB in that draft. Cam Newton. Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert weren't blowing people away. The next QBs taken were Andy Dalton and Kaepernick in Rd 2.
The consensus in this draft is that there is a LOT of QB depth. Just because he might be the fifth best prospect QB doesn't mean he'd be the fifth best QB in each draft.
Now, most analysts thing there is a drop after the Top 4, so you might be right on Penix at 11 as a reach. But I think he is better than that. Its also not just a decision of Penix versus McCarthy or Maye. It's Penix+23rd pick+first rounder next year. You'd better be damn sure McCarthy or Maye is head and shoulders ahead of Penix before making that trade.
And maybe if you don't love Maye or McCarthy enough to move up, you just risk that the drop to 11th. Or risk that Penix drops to 23rd. See how the QB market plays out. If the Bronco's move up for a QB, maybe you can trade down from 11 and get more draft capital.
That said, if they trade away the farm to move up, I'll hope on the hype train for whatever QB they get. Even if he's a bust, I'd rather get excited until he's proven a bust than be miserable assuming he will be a bust.
Rnd | Player | Pick | Pos | Yrs | From | To | AP1 | PB | St | wAV | G | Cmp | Att | Yds | TD | Int | Att | Yds | TD | Rec | Yds | TD | College/Univ |
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1 | Lewis Cine | 32 | DB | 2 | 2022 | 2023 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Georgia | ||||||||
2 | Andrew Booth | 42 | CB | 2 | 2022 | 2023 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 23 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Clemson | ||||||||
2 | Ed Ingram | 59 | G | 2 | 2022 | 2023 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 13 | 32 | 0 | 0 | 0 | LSU | ||||||||
3 | Brian Asamoah | 66 | LB | 2 | 2022 | 2023 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 29 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Oklahoma | ||||||||
4 | Akayleb Evans | 118 | DB | 2 | 2022 | 2023 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 25 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Missouri | ||||||||
5 | Esezi Otomewo | 165 | DT | 1 | 2022 | 2022 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Minnesota | ||||||||
5 | Ty Chandler | 169 | RB | 2 | 2022 | 2023 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 20 | 0 | 108 | 481 | 3 | 21 | 159 | 0 | North Carolina | ||||
6 | Vederian Lowe | 184 | OL | 2 | 2022 | 2023 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 15 | 0 | 0 | 0 | Illinois | ||||||||
6 | Jalen Nailor | 191 | WR | 2 | 2022 | 2023 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 21 | 0 | 0 | 12 | 208 | 1 | Michigan St. | ||||||
7 | Nick Muse | 227 | TE | 2 | 2022 | 2023 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 12 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 22 | 0 | South Carolina |
Every single team passed on Purdy multiple times. No one outside of Ames Iowa could have predicted his ascension, even the team that ended up drafting him. Passing on Purdy isn't a valid measuring stick for any team's draft.This Vikings brain trust passed on Brock Purdy ten times in the 2022 NFL draft.
Ten times.
Couldn't bother to take a flyer on a 4 year starter from 3 hours south.
I wouldn't trust them to get anything right.
Rnd Player Pick Pos Yrs From To AP1 PB St wAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD College/Univ 1 Lewis Cine 32 DB 2 2022 2023 0 0 0 0 10 0 0 0 Georgia 2 Andrew Booth 42 CB 2 2022 2023 0 0 0 2 23 0 0 0 Clemson 2 Ed Ingram 59 G 2 2022 2023 0 0 1 13 32 0 0 0 LSU 3 Brian Asamoah 66 LB 2 2022 2023 0 0 0 2 29 0 0 0 Oklahoma 4 Akayleb Evans 118 DB 2 2022 2023 0 0 0 6 25 0 0 0 Missouri 5 Esezi Otomewo 165 DT 1 2022 2022 0 0 0 0 5 0 0 0 Minnesota 5 Ty Chandler 169 RB 2 2022 2023 0 0 0 4 20 0 108 481 3 21 159 0 North Carolina 6 Vederian Lowe 184 OL 2 2022 2023 0 0 0 3 15 0 0 0 Illinois 6 Jalen Nailor 191 WR 2 2022 2023 0 0 0 1 21 0 0 12 208 1 Michigan St. 7 Nick Muse 227 TE 2 2022 2023 0 0 0 0 12 0 0 1 22 0 South Carolina More 2022 Vikings Pages
From what I've seen, there was a very good chance Purdy would have signed with Minnesota as an undrafted free agent. Vikings were definitely interested, San Fran just made a literal last second decision to draft Brock instead. Can't fault Minnesota here when every single team passed on Brock multiple times (49ers included)This Vikings brain trust passed on Brock Purdy ten times in the 2022 NFL draft.
Ten times.
Couldn't bother to take a flyer on a 4 year starter from 3 hours south.
I wouldn't trust them to get anything right.
Rnd Player Pick Pos Yrs From To AP1 PB St wAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD College/Univ 1 Lewis Cine 32 DB 2 2022 2023 0 0 0 0 10 0 0 0 Georgia 2 Andrew Booth 42 CB 2 2022 2023 0 0 0 2 23 0 0 0 Clemson 2 Ed Ingram 59 G 2 2022 2023 0 0 1 13 32 0 0 0 LSU 3 Brian Asamoah 66 LB 2 2022 2023 0 0 0 2 29 0 0 0 Oklahoma 4 Akayleb Evans 118 DB 2 2022 2023 0 0 0 6 25 0 0 0 Missouri 5 Esezi Otomewo 165 DT 1 2022 2022 0 0 0 0 5 0 0 0 Minnesota 5 Ty Chandler 169 RB 2 2022 2023 0 0 0 4 20 0 108 481 3 21 159 0 North Carolina 6 Vederian Lowe 184 OL 2 2022 2023 0 0 0 3 15 0 0 0 Illinois 6 Jalen Nailor 191 WR 2 2022 2023 0 0 0 1 21 0 0 12 208 1 Michigan St. 7 Nick Muse 227 TE 2 2022 2023 0 0 0 0 12 0 0 1 22 0 South Carolina More 2022 Vikings Pages
Yeah, that would be like taking the data point a mile away from all of the rest that are in a box and saying it's a significant factor in the results. There will always be outliers in both direction. It seems like there are as many 1st round QB busts as there are 2nd-3rd round.Every single team passed on Purdy multiple times. No one outside of Ames Iowa could have predicted his ascension, even the team that ended up drafting him. Passing on Purdy isn't a valid measuring stick for any team's draft.
Yes. It sounds like Cousins himself accidently mentioned it.Did anyone hear anything about the NFL investigating tampering charges against Atlanta? I just heard about it today
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/n...-potential-tampering-in-kirk-cousins-signing/
I get that there have to be rules in place, but contacting a player (be it pro or college) within a certain window has to be one the most-often-abused-and-hard-to-enforce rules out there. I honestly think it happens so often that the only people that get caught are ones that talk about it too casually and bust themselves (Cousins, Proctor)Did anyone hear anything about the NFL investigating tampering charges against Atlanta? I just heard about it today
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/n...-potential-tampering-in-kirk-cousins-signing/
Saw one article today where the possible punishment for Atlanta would be to swap first round picks with the Vikes. The story mentioned some precedent, but I’ll believe it when I see it.Did anyone hear anything about the NFL investigating tampering charges against Atlanta? I just heard about it today
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/n...-potential-tampering-in-kirk-cousins-signing/
I agree. Don't overpay for Maye or JJIMO the Vikings should not trade up. Very rarely does that work out. Take the QB available that is best at 11. I actually like Penix a lot. He even won at Indiana. Hasn’t been injured the last two years. And doesn’t get sacked. Plus that bazooka of an arm with the receivers he would have. Then take Newton of Illinois at DT at 23. And you still have 2025 First yet.
Falcons passed on Purdy 8 times and now are locked in on paying a QB $180M over the next four years, a veteran QB who happens to be past his prime and may not even be in the league in four years. Seems to me their front office made some really poor decisions, much more than the VikingsThis Vikings brain trust passed on Brock Purdy ten times in the 2022 NFL draft.
Ten times.
Couldn't bother to take a flyer on a 4 year starter from 3 hours south.
I wouldn't trust them to get anything right.
Rnd Player Pick Pos Yrs From To AP1 PB St wAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD College/Univ 1 Lewis Cine 32 DB 2 2022 2023 0 0 0 0 10 0 0 0 Georgia 2 Andrew Booth 42 CB 2 2022 2023 0 0 0 2 23 0 0 0 Clemson 2 Ed Ingram 59 G 2 2022 2023 0 0 1 13 32 0 0 0 LSU 3 Brian Asamoah 66 LB 2 2022 2023 0 0 0 2 29 0 0 0 Oklahoma 4 Akayleb Evans 118 DB 2 2022 2023 0 0 0 6 25 0 0 0 Missouri 5 Esezi Otomewo 165 DT 1 2022 2022 0 0 0 0 5 0 0 0 Minnesota 5 Ty Chandler 169 RB 2 2022 2023 0 0 0 4 20 0 108 481 3 21 159 0 North Carolina 6 Vederian Lowe 184 OL 2 2022 2023 0 0 0 3 15 0 0 0 Illinois 6 Jalen Nailor 191 WR 2 2022 2023 0 0 0 1 21 0 0 12 208 1 Michigan St. 7 Nick Muse 227 TE 2 2022 2023 0 0 0 0 12 0 0 1 22 0 South Carolina More 2022 Vikings Pages
Agree.Falcons passed on Purdy 8 times and now are locked in on paying a QB $180M over the next four years, a veteran QB who happens to be past his prime and may not even be in the league in four years. Seems to me their front office made some really poor decisions, much more than the Vikings
They threw one of the picks last year at a QB.Agree.
Vikings should be thrilled they paid Cousins, at least the fans.
Still shortsighted not to throw one of those many picks at a QB.
No guarantee he has same success in Minny as in SF, but it would have been fun to watch.
Not only did they throw a pick at one, they played and started him last season. Didn't work.They threw one of the picks last year at a QB.