I liked the pick too. Linebacker is the biggest area of need but I knew Shazier and Mosley wouldn't last til the 31st pick. Roby can pair with Harris to hold down the corner spot across from Talib. Tonight I'm thinking they use their two picks to get a linebacker and offensive lineman. Maybe a D-tackle if a good one is sitting there.
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I liked the pick too. Linebacker is the biggest area of need but I knew Shazier and Mosley wouldn't last til the 31st pick. Roby can pair with Harris to hold down the corner spot across from Talib. Tonight I'm thinking they use their two picks to get a linebacker and offensive lineman. Maybe a D-tackle if a good one is sitting there.
I don't know why any team would bite on Ryan Mallett. There's no evidence that he's good enough to start. Think about it - if he was worth a damn then why would the Pats have him on the trading block? Wouldn't they want an insurance policy if Brady got hurt, and maybe the eventual replacement?
Sounds like the evil genius trying to put one over on the rest of the league again.
OBrien was with the Patriots when they drafted Mallett and I think they want to trade him cuz they know he is leaving in free agency and want to get something out of him
I can understand why the Pats would want to get something for him. What I don't get is why any team would give up anything much higher than a late third rounder for him. We don't know anything more about Mallett's pro potential than we do about a guy who could be drafted this weekend, so why not draft someone and get him on a rookie deal as opposed to a one year rental on an unknown quantity like Mallett?
Yeah this workout in shorts and a t shirt definitely proves more about a guys ability to play quarterback than the 3 years of outstanding production and the 31/4 TD to Int ratio last year. Also lighting up Florida and Miami in back to back bowl games shouldn't mean anything either, right?
I'm not saying that Bridgewater will be the answer to the long-term question that is the Vikings QB situation, but to say he's awful because of a pro day workout is ridiculous.
Plus throwing a football is much different in pads than it is without. Speaking from experience as a high school quarterback.
Exactly. I don't understand how any Vikings fan wouldn't be excited about the pick. He might be a risk, but so is literally every other top quarterback taken in every draft.
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Here's a great article on one of the main reasons Minnesota thought Bridgewater was the man.
http://espn.go.com/blog/minnesota-vikings/post/_/id/6614/handling-pressure-set-bridgewater-apart
Some really dumb people on the ESPN boards. And by people I mean David Horne
Mike WintersI watched him completely shred a Florida Gators defense in the BCS bowl game 2 seasons ago. That Gator defense currently has 9 players drafted/playing in the NFL, at least 3 more are expected to be drafted in the mid-rounds coming up, and 3 others (Fowler Jr., Bullard and Antonio Morrison) who will be high draft picks in next years' draft. that's a defense of at minimum, 15 NFL players, of which he ripped apart, it looked as if he didn't even break a sweat. The Vikings really lucked out on this one. He will be a force in the NFL.
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David HorneIn a bowl game Florida didn't even want to be in. He will be forced out of the NFL cause hes pitiful.
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Paul Chacos · Top Commenter · St. CloudDavid Horne what a joke you are, that is a bcs bowl game, in which he shredded the SEC , who will force him out Blaine Gabbert still has a job, go back under your bridge troll
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David HornePaul what other teams did he play besides Fla you chump.
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Andrew Johnson · Follow · Top CommenterDavid Horne
"Pitiful", based on what? You must be a Bears or Packers fan. Get a bit worried. You shouldn't because according to you he is "pitiful".
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David HorneIm a Vikings fan. Worried over Bridgewater. Stay away from Crystal Meth.
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Tanner Wood · University of LouisvilleDavid Horne he also tore up miami (Fl), the man had 12 ints over the last two seasons compared to 58 TDs, Im a louisville fan... you all are lucky to have him fall to you, or are you that confident in matt cassels abilities?
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David HorneTanner Miami is a powerhouse now. We have 3 Matt Cassell's now. As a Louisville fan what good teams did they play. Where Manziel played SEC weekend weekout. Just curious.
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Matt Wieder · New Albany, IndianaDavid Horne what good teams did guys like Kurt Warner, Joe Flacco, Brett Favre, Colin Kaepernick, play against? 8 of the last 14 super bowls have had small school starting QB's. With most of those guys not playing schedules even as tough as what Louisville has played the last few years. Blake Bortles played in the same conference and his numbers aren't even as good as Bridgewater's.
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Will Thomas · Top Commenter · Works at MeijerMatt Wieder yup and bridegwater has been on everyone's radar for 3 years and put up crazy numbers every year. bortles won a couple games toward the 2nd half of this season and hes now considered god..
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David HorneGood luck with Teddy!!!!!!!!!! Minnesota is gonna need it.
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Matt Wieder · New Albany, IndianaI'm not knocking anyone else in the draft but Teddy slipped to the end of the first round because of questions about some of his measurables. Hand Size, Weight etc. The kid can play. The tape doesn't lie. he also played his his best in the biggest games. He was the best QB in this draft against the biltz and he also was actually running the offense he played in. Making the checks at the line etc. not turning to to the sidelines to get a call from the coaches. I think in a few years people will say the Viking's stole him that late in the first round
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David Lyons · Top Commenter · University of LouisvilleMatt, don't fog up Horne's mind by stating facts; it just screws up his own non-reality based view of the world. All Viking fans have to do is watch the Rutgers game to know what they are getting. Doesn't matter how good or bad Rutgers was; they had complete control of the game until Teddy entered late with a broken wrist and sprained ankle and took it from them. Ask any Rutgers fan about Teddy's heart and ability to win.
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David HorneDavid you said it all. The game against Rutgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rutgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rutgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rutgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rutgers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Memphis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cincinnati!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kentucky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ohio!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FIU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! E.Kentucky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Temple!!!!!!!!!!!!!! S.Florida!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Conn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a schedule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Brutal Schedule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Scott Brown · Supply Chain Coordinator at University of Iowa Hospitals and ClinicsManziel played in the SEC weekend weekout? So did Tebow and J. Russell. That did wonders for them at the NFL level.
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Andrew Johnson · Follow · Top CommenterDavid,
I guess it take one to know one, right, Mr. Horne? I haven't mine. Have you had yours, yet? And I am not even a Viking fan.
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Ricky Delgadillo · Top Commenter · Works at MSM Catering Trucks Mfg.David Horne calm your ****. His play on the field will do the talking. keep on hating bum. Maybe you should find a new team to "root" for.
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David Lyons · Top Commenter · University of LouisvilleHorne---Brett Favre, Southern Miss., played in Metro Conference (Ever hear of it? No? It doesn't exist anymore)---played powerhouses like Tulane and yes, Louisville. Brutal conference, huh? How'd he end up doing?
Love how Mack fell to #5 and the Raiders considering he was predicted to go #1 in some mock drafts.
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On the draft website I look at most often the Vikings got a B for each of the picks (plus the corresponding trades), I don't have any disagreement with that assessment.
Barr is the defensive equivalent of Patterson last year; high level physical tools, has been playing the position for a shorter length of time than other prospects, needs a lot of refinement, and had really productive albeit inconsistent collegiate seasons. Patterson has done everything that could be expected and maybe more, but there was still risk with that pick just as there is with Barr. It felt slightly early for him, but as I felt going into the draft there were five top guys (that went in the first 6 picks) and at the end of the top 10 you were taking your pick of the next tier of guys so anyone was going to feel like a slight reach. I would have been happy with Donald or one of the top CBs but those picks wouldn't have had the upside (but also risk) of what they chose.
There is only one way to be wrong when comparing Bridgewater to Carr, by saying one is the obvious pick over the other. That is not to say one won't have a significantly better career than the other, but to claim to know for sure which it will be at this point is just hubris (or trusting a particular pundit too much). They appear to be really similar level prospects (highlighted by being the identical size). Pundits like Carr's throwing motion more, but he has had some decision-making and turnover problems. Bridgewater has some arm strength concerns, but has been really good at not turning it over and dealing with the pass rush. Both of their stats are somewhat inflated by the systems they played in (particularly completion percentage). Mainly I am just glad that the Vikings didn't take a QB at 8 or give up a lot to trade back into the mid first round for one. The key for Bridgewater (like most QBs coming into the league) is for the Vikings to not rush it. If they can give him a year or so to get acclimated he has a lot better chance of being successful.
Barr is the defensive equivalent of Patterson last year; high level physical tools, has been playing the position for a shorter length of time than other prospects, needs a lot of refinement, and had really productive albeit inconsistent collegiate seasons. Patterson has done everything that could be expected and maybe more, but there was still risk with that pick just as there is with Barr. It felt slightly early for him, but as I felt going into the draft there were five top guys (that went in the first 6 picks) and at the end of the top 10 you were taking your pick of the next tier of guys so anyone was going to feel like a slight reach. I would have been happy with Donald or one of the top CBs but those picks wouldn't have had the upside (but also risk) of what they chose.
There is only one way to be wrong when comparing Bridgewater to Carr, by saying one is the obvious pick over the other. That is not to say one won't have a significantly better career than the other, but to claim to know for sure which it will be at this point is just hubris (or trusting a particular pundit too much). They appear to be really similar level prospects (highlighted by being the identical size). Pundits like Carr's throwing motion more, but he has had some decision-making and turnover problems. Bridgewater has some arm strength concerns, but has been really good at not turning it over and dealing with the pass rush. Both of their stats are somewhat inflated by the systems they played in (particularly completion percentage). Mainly I am just glad that the Vikings didn't take a QB at 8 or give up a lot to trade back into the mid first round for one. The key for Bridgewater (like most QBs coming into the league) is for the Vikings to not rush it. If they can give him a year or so to get acclimated he has a lot better chance of being successful.
Good move for both teams. Johnson is a streaky gamebreaker and has been a distraction at times throughout his career. This gives Sammy Watkins a chance to grow into the #1 receiver role and the Niners get some needed depth at WR.
I hear the TV ratings were down and nobody is even paying attention to the draft right now, if this were a tv show it would have been canceled after last night. All anybody cares about is the NBA Playoffs and the Brooklyn Nets versus Miami Heat because that is where all the big superstars are. They just need to make this event more interesting, maybe do some more previews or those shows where commentators talk about who is going to be picked, or where the television hosts have their own "mock draft".
A little bit of reach, but only by 3-5 spots. Barr is Clay Matthews without the steroids.
Agree that the Packers needed a safety, but some think HaHa was a good player that looked better because he was on a great team. Not known as a hitter. We'll see.
I would have been more worried if the Packers would have taken the Texas Tech TE.
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Nice. They do draw it out. But it seems to have paid off. Last night's ratings on Espn were the best ever by a significant margin. According to Mike and Mike, last night pulled a 6.8 rating. The previous high was in the low 5's
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That's what Jay Glazer claimed. I didn't hear it from anywhere else, though. Who knows?
