2011= ouch

[jaretac]

@Utah
Iowa
@Connecticut
Northern Iowa
Kansas State
@Texas Tech
Oklahoma
Texas
@Kansas
@Nebraska
Colorado
@Missouri

-losing 6 starters on offense including Arnaud, Robinson, Williams, Franklin, Lamaak, and Alvarez

-lose 5 starters on defense including Parker, Johnson, Sims, O’Connell and likely who ever steps in the middle LB spot.

Obviously there is always a revolving door, but especially the offense is going to lose a lot of talent after this year. The schedule make this years look easy. Only consolation is that we will get to play Baylor instead of Nebraska, but (according to the current schedule) we still play 8 teams in 2011 that won 8 or more games in 2009 and 5 of those are on the road. 10 of the 12 teams we play had a .500 or better record in 2009.

 

[theshadow]

Take out Nebraska, Colorado and one non-conference game (likely UConn).

Replace with Baylor, Oklahoma State and Texas A&M.

 

[Rogue52]

As of now, Colorado will still be a member of the Big 12 in 2011.

 

[jaretac]

As of now, Colorado will still be a member of the Big 12 in 2011.

It will be round robin I'm guessing, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was only 8 conference games on the schedule still. Probably a format similar to what the Big 10 currently uses. I bet we wont drop a non-conference.

 

[theshadow]

As of now, Colorado will still be a member of the Big 12 in 2011.

They want to get out at the same time as Nebraska. Plus, Utah is joining the Pac-10 in 2011, so it would make sense for CU to do the same.

 

[isuno1fan]

CU will be gone with Nebbie. We will drop a non-conf. I'm guessing @Utah.

 

[theshadow]

CU will be gone with Nebbie. We will drop a non-conf. I'm guessing @Utah.

The game at Utah is the back end of a two-game set.

The game at UConn is a one-gamer, unless you assume it's a return game from 2002.

Either way, it would likely be easier to push back (or buy out of) the UConn game.

 

[ISUAlum2002]

Come on, man. You don't read these boards enough. We should all want a daunting schedule so our team is tested against the best!! Wins and bowl games are overrated.

 

[isuno1fan]

The game at Utah is the back end of a two-game set.

The game at UConn is a one-gamer, unless you assume it's a return game from 2002.

Either way, it would likely be easier to push back (or buy out of) the UConn game.

I agree, but I figure we keep the easier game with one less on the non-conf.

 

[acgclone]

Either way (CU), this is going to be one nightmare of a schedule. 2010 isn't too different.

 

[GoShow97]

Come on, man. You don't read these boards enough. We should all want a daunting schedule so our team is tested against the best!! Wins and bowl games are overrated.

Cupcake wins are over-rated.
Being 6-6 and going to a bowl game is over-rated.

 

[Clone96]

Let's just worry about this season first....

 

[jaretac]

My point wasn't just the schedule but the combination of the schedule and loss of starters. Point being we should come to the realization it may be a few more years before Rhoads really gets this thing going. If he is somehow able to pull out a bowl season out of the next two we should give him a lifetime contract.

 

[CyCloned]

Cupcake wins are over-rated.
Being 6-6 and going to a bowl game is over-rated.

Winning is winning. Going to bowl games is still going to bowl games, getting extra practices, getting fan bases excited, etc. Teams that go to bowl games tend to continue to go to bowl games because they have the extra practices, so even a bad bowl game is good.

 

[Wesley]

The game at Utah is the back end of a two-game set.

The game at UConn is a one-gamer, unless you assume it's a return game from 2002.

Either way, it would likely be easier to push back (or buy out of) the UConn game.

The Utah game will be pushed to the future is my bet.

 

[theshadow]

The Utah game will be pushed to the future is my bet.

Utah will be looking for another non-conf game in 2012 and 2013. They had Colorado already on the schedule. That will now become a conference game.

ISU's entire nonconference schedule through 2020 will become a giant fustercluck. That's the one downfall of having everything "set" so far in advance.

 

[GoShow97]

Winning is winning. Going to bowl games is still going to bowl games, getting extra practices, getting fan bases excited, etc. Teams that go to bowl games tend to continue to go to bowl games because they have the extra practices, so even a bad bowl game is good.

Yes because we all know a win against a Nebraska or an Iowa is always held in the same regard and stature as a win against a North Dakota State, while we also know that a 2009 6-6 ISU team that went to a bowl is considerably better than an 1976 8-3 ISU team that did not go to a bowl.

Quality wins > sister of the poor wins.

Not debating if a bowl game is good or not, I think it goes with out saying that the benefits of going to a bowl are self evident. But if you are using going to bowls as a measurement of performance - in lite of 6-6 teams going to bowls - a bowl game doesn't mean much towards how good a footbal team is.

 

[Rogue52]

If Colorado is leaving after 2010, they better inform the Big 12 fast. The penalty becomes stiffer as time goes on.

 

[GoShow97]

My point wasn't just the schedule but the combination of the schedule and loss of starters. Point being we should come to the realization it may be a few more years before Rhoads really gets this thing going. If he is somehow able to pull out a bowl season out of the next two we should give him a lifetime contract.

Welcome to the reality of college football. One thing that you fail to address is that other teams are faced with the exact same issues as ISU. Plus, things are not static. I'm not as concerned with losing starters as much as I am concerned with the developement of players in the program. Starters will always be leaving the program, this is a given. One hopes that player developemnt overcomes the loss. This is not a given. Alot can change in one season, so I would expect ISU coming out strong for 2011.

 

[Rogue52]

Things are really going to get messy in Big 12 scheduling. If ISU gets rid of the @Utah game in 2011, that would mean they'd have to move another game to the beginning of the season (I could see UNI) or kick off the season against a Big 12 opponent.