2 Deep Surprises

JCloned

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Few things that caught my eye in two deeps.

First Paul Fisher is not even in 2 deeps at right guard. He is listed as 2nd behind seth Zehr and is on the same line as John Tjaden as backups fro Aaron Brant. I was encourged to see John T. that high, he came in with a lot of hype and I was beginning to doubt we would see him. I had kind of forgotten Bastian Shober as the back up at center.

Not real surprised to see Rashawn Parker at starting DE over Machado, but the two big surprises to me on the DL are Nate Frere (freshman) starting at NT and wnd is Bryce Braaksma listed as backup for Curvey. I am guessing Rubin will get a lot of snaps behind Frere. I hope it is a sign of DL depth rather than trouble ahead. Two true freshman starting on DL, is either great recruiting or a warning sign.

No surprise at starting LB, but I was interested to see how the 2's would shake out. Jesse Smith held off the newcomers and is listed as McKenzies's back up and true freshman Fred Garrain is Carpers back up.

I was somewhat surprise to se Steve Johnson in the #2 spot at cb behind singleton. Hadn't heard much about him this spring or fall. Also of note Jason Harris is co #2 with Brandon Hunley at Safety behind Jon Banks

Believe it or not there will be Josh Griebahn sighting Thursday night as the kick off man.
 

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Who is Griebahn? I have seen his name listed, but I didn't know what he brought to the team. I have to admit I wasn't looking forward to Shaggy kicking off, as accurate as he is he sure doesn't have a lot of leg to go with it.

I'm also pretty tense about two true freshman starting on the defensive line. This is definitly a concern for me.

Edit: Although I'm concerned about it, I'm really looking forward to watching so many young players in their careers here at ISU. I mean you have Arnaud, Johnson, Stephens, Marquis Hamilton all freshman in the two deeps, and Parker, Frere, Garrin, Johnson, Williams, Smith, and Raven in the two deeps on Defense. That is a lot of Talent on both sides in the two deeps, and it doesn't even include a few players that I'm really excited about on defense, in Kris Means and Devin McDowell. Exciting.

Also, Nick Frere is listed in the two deeps at DE, so we could have both Frere's starting next year. All good, exciting things.
 
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Clonehomer

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Did Rubin lose some weight already or was his original 315 lb weight a little exaggerated?
 

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Griebahn, Josh PK 5-8 193 Jr. Iowa City, Iowa (West Branch)

Several years ago was touted quite heavily, lot of press at the time of how Mac used scholarship to pull him out from under Ferentz. He has had some injury problems and is rumored to have really struggled with kicking it off the ground. With tee in hs he had a great leg, but has struggled to get the ball up off the ground resulting in rumor has a lot blocked kicks in practice.
 

JCloned

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Nate​
FRERE 62​
Defensive Line • 6-2 • 285
Fr. • Muscatine, Iowa
(Muscatine)​
High School:​
First-team all-state pick as a junior and as a senior by the
Iowa Newspaper Association ... fi rst-team Class 4-A selection as a senior
and second-team 4-A selection as a junior by
The Des Moines Register ...
fi rst four-time letterwinner in school history ... started and played both
ways in the line ... had 78 tackles, 15 for loss as a junior ... team made the
state playoffs his fi rst three years as four-year starter at defensive tackle and
offensive guard ... ranked as the fi fth-best prospect in the state by Rivals ...

PrepStar​
all-Midwest selection ... coached by Brian Sauser ...

Personal:​
Born July 24, 1987 ... son of Dan and Theresa Frere ... brother
Nick is a defensive end on the Iowa State squad.

 

JCloned

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PARKER 29​
Defensive Line • 6-0 • 235
Fr. • Ponca City, Okla.
(Ponca City)​
High School:​
First-team all-state selection by the Daily Oklahoman, making
105 tackles ... led class 6A defenders with 18 sacks ... teammate of ISU
signee Josh Johnson ... team made state playoffs his senior year ... ranked
among the top 30 overall prospects in Oklahoma by Rivals.com ...
PrepStar

all-Midlands athlete ... fi nished career with 167 tackles, including 26 sacks
and 49 tackles for loss ... rated as one of the top 25 recruits in the state of
Oklahoma at any position by Rivals.com ... coached by Bo Hannaford ...
three-year letterwinner in football and track and four times in basketball
... four-year honor roll member.​
Personal:​
Born Nov. 19, 1986, in Tulsa, Okla. ... son of Georgia Mathis
and Waymond Mathis

 

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One other thing I noticed is that back up corners are true freshman and redshirt freshman. If you look at the total backfield. Once, James Smith is back we have at the Corners Senior & Sophmores backed up by two freshman. At Safety When James Smith comes back we will be freshman and Jr backed up by senior and Sophmores.

Our coaches will earn their keep this year with the youth that goes from DL to LB's to DB's on defense
 

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Tuba is still 315-320. The 285 was his weight out of high school, I imagine, and it has yet to be changed in the database.
 

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Where is Ron Prelow

Don't see him listed in the two deeps. He always looks like a monster in warm ups. Did he transfer?
 

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Ron Prelow hasn't been on the team for a while. I think there were injury issues and he's now helping out in the weight room, but I may be thinking of someone else. I know Prelow hasn't been around for awhile, though.
 

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I don't remember what happend to Ron Prelow. He wasn't playing in Spring game either...If I recall he would have been a Junior this year.
 

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It was no rumor. I had to suffer though practice everyday watching him line drive balls into the rear ends of our lineman. I am glad to see he stuck with it. At one time, I know he was close to hanging it up. Good for him
 

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Ron Prelow was not a division one player. Tried real hard, but lacked quickness and speed to play at this level. Also had some troubles handling assignments. I'm sure the coaches has visions of him helping out on special teams but it just never materialized for Ron
 

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Ron well thought of as a recruit, but I know his range wasn't very good at LB. I would have to say that would classify to me as an avoidable recruiting miss. Still can't recall when he left though....
 

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Ron was my favorite player last year just because he was always confused with Stevie Hicks on the sideline and around campus. I was under the impression that he just wasn't good enough to be a D-1 player and he quit the team.
 

cyboy

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The way I see it is it is a better to take a risk on good player from a great high school team in Florida than to take a chance on a good player from a good high school team in Iowa. I think that is what it boiled down to with Ron. He was probably more suited to play d-end because of his speed but he was much too small for the college game. Classic tweener that the coaches thought was worth the risk. Not sure I would call it unavoidable. You have 25 ships a year to give out and not everyone is going to work out. Happens at Iowa State, Oklahoma, Florida State, USC.
 

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