1996 Bulls vs 2017 Warriors

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In what way do the bulls in those games appear more/as advanced in IQ, handles, dunks, and layups compared to those Warriors games? I don't see anywhere in either team that they were as advanced as the Warriors or the team they faced; they look very obsolete.

I don’t understand where the comments about the Bulls beating the Warriors come from, unless they are based on watching highlights that don’t show every area where they are outdated, because these full games don’t demonstrate that they can just walk in and compete like they used to.
 
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I always pick the '80s Lakers and Celtics teams over the '90s Bulls teams. So, in that vein, I pick the '96 Bulls over the 2017 Warriors! Da Bulls! :)
 

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In what way do the bulls in those games appear more/as advanced in IQ, handles, dunks, and layups compared to those Warriors games? I don't see anywhere in either team that they were as advanced as the Warriors or the team they faced; they look very obsolete.

I don’t understand where the comments about the Bulls beating the Warriors come from, unless they are based on watching highlights that don’t show every area where they are outdated, because these full games don’t demonstrate that they can just walk in and compete like they used to.


This is such a stupid argument, and I fall into it every time.

Do you really think they would run the same lineups and strategy they did in ‘96 if they played in the current era?

Just for reference, they were 20th (out of 29) in pace in the NBA in 95-96 and but still lead the league in PPG.
 

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Which argument did I make? By asking if '90s teams look as advanced? I don't think anything either; the topic is '96 vs. '17, so it makes no sense at all to simulate how a Bulls team would play when nobody knows, which is why I posted the actual way they played. If you go back to the post, people are saying the Bulls would win against the Warriors. Which team did anyone say that about? Multiple pele did, by the way. Did the Bulls face anybody as advanced as them? Those would be odd, stupid comments, not mine. Those are all based on the Bulls facing teams as advanced as at the time.











































































































































































































































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This is such a stupid argument, and I fall into it every time.



Do you really think they would run the same lineups and strategy they did in ‘96 if they played in the current era?



Just for reference, they were 20th (out of 29) in pace in the NBA in 95-96 and but still lead the league in PPG.

This is such a stupid argument, and I fall into it every time.

Do you really think they would run the same lineups and strategy they did in ‘96 if they played in the current era?

Just for reference, they were 20th (out of 29) in pace in the NBA in 95-96 and but still lead the league in PPG.
Which argument did I make? By asking if '90s teams look as advanced? I don't think anything either; the topic is '96 vs. '17, so it makes no sense at all to simulate how a Bulls team would play when nobody knows, which is why I posted the actual way they played. If you go back to the post, people are saying the Bulls would win against the Warriors. Which team did anyone play like Warriors in 90s?,Those would be odd, stupid comments, not mine. Those are all based on the Bulls facing teams as advanced as known at the time, and if you're going to say the '96 Bulls would play how teams play now, well then that doesn't make sense either because then you would need to find players who have those '90s guys from the Bulls' playstyle inside players, which would all be from other teams. You see how it's all too hypothetical then?
 
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Today's teams and players would get physically brutalized and traumatized playing against the top teams from the 90s.
 

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The best team in NBA history was the 99-2000 Lakers. There is no team in history that could match up with them including any of the Bulls dynasty teams. They were way better than any team from the West Chicago faced during their run including the 95 Sonics. You couldn't guard them
 

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The best team in NBA history was the 99-2000 Lakers. There is no team in history that could match up with them including any of the Bulls dynasty teams. They were way better than any team from the West Chicago faced during their run including the 95 Sonics. You couldn't guard them
Nah. 95-96 Bulls.

G - R. Harper
G - M. Jordan
F - S. Pippen
F - D. Rodman
C - L. Longley

T. Kukoc coming off the bench.

Nobody matches up with that assemblage of the best offensive AND defensive talent in a starting 5.
 

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I don't see how any team from the 80s or 90s beats a modern team with todays rules. 4 and 5's that handle the ball and shoot like guards and an expanded 3 point line that spaces the floor and makes it almost impossible to play help defense. I get nostalgia from your childhood but come on. The 4 and 5 from that era were almost exclusively post players.
 
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Nah. 95-96 Bulls.

G - R. Harper
G - M. Jordan
F - S. Pippen
F - D. Rodman
C - L. Longley

T. Kukoc coming off the bench.

Nobody matches up with that assemblage of the best offensive AND defensive talent in a starting 5.
I disagree. The Sonics would have taken that game to 7 if they wouldn't have waited until game 4 to put Payton on Jordan. Jordan only averaged 22ppg when the switch was made. Jordan went from 30 ppg down to 22. The series was over when Karl made the adjustment. The only reason I think the Lakers from that year were the best is because Shaq was the most dominant player in the history of the NBA for about 4-5 years in there. Not the best in terms of skill but the absolute most dominant player I've ever seen.
 
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I don't see how any team from the 80s or 90s beats a modern team with todays rules. 4 and 5's that handle the ball and shoot like guards and an expanded 3 point line that spaces the floor and makes it almost impossible to play help defense. I get nostalgia from your childhood but come on. The 4 and 5 from that era were almost exclusively post players.

It's delusional. I posted 00-04 looking way more advanced, and all I got was, "Do I think the Bulls would play the exact same?" Well, yeah, they would, since there's no way to predict how good the '90s Bulls would be. This topic is about the '90s Bulls, not the 2025 Bulls.
 

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I don't see how any team from the 80s or 90s beats a modern team with todays rules. 4 and 5's that handle the ball and shoot like guards and an expanded 3 point line that spaces the floor and makes it almost impossible to play help defense. I get nostalgia from your childhood but come on. The 4 and 5 from that era were almost exclusively post players.
That's the X factor. If games are called like they are today where you can't breathe on a guy without getting a foul called, I don't know who from back then could win. If the games are called like they were back then when you could literally mug a guy without getting called, there's no way today's teams/players could compete. They'd be walking around in a daze.
 
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That's the X factor. If games are called like they are today where you can't breathe on a guy without getting a foul called, I don't know who from back then could win. If the games are called like they were back then when you could literally mug a guy without getting called, there's no way today's teams/players could compete. They'd be walking around in a daze.
Well that's how teams now are built. Keep in mind one of the reasons for the rule changes is cause we were getting our asses kicked in international play. Jordan is the best ever but my God the skill level of the NBA now positions 1-5 is astronomically better than 20-30 years ago. Players now are bigger, stronger, faster, better shooters, better ball handlers, passes, etc... I really don't get the argument. And contrary to popular belief they can defend. It just impossible to defend with the rules of today. It impossible to defend guys that skilled, especially without help. The spacing makes it impossible to help. And the idea that today's game isn't physical is a myth too. Take the ball to the basket and you're gonna get body checked. By guys bigger than they ever have been too.
 
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