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I've been amazed at how many analysts have been pushing the Browns or Giants to take Sanders just because they need a quarterback. If you don't think the quarterback is going to be "the guy", don't take him and pick up a veteran guy instead. Too many of these draft guys focus on team needs instead of best available.
I heard the Cleveland beat reporter on the NFL network this morning, and they are leaning towards Hunter, and want to play his at WR first and CB in spots. There reasoning is that it takes more time to learn the WR position and get in time with the QB. The guy stated that they did not think there was a QB worth the 2nd pick in the draft and will be better off waiting and then drafting one later in the draft. They said they have a lot of picks but a lot of holes to fill and if they have to go with what they have now on the roster at QB for a year, the FO is fine with that.
 

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I heard the Cleveland beat reporter on the NFL network this morning, and they are leaning towards Hunter, and want to play his at WR first and CB in spots. There reasoning is that it takes more time to learn the WR position and get in time with the QB. The guy stated that they did not think there was a QB worth the 2nd pick in the draft and will be better off waiting and then drafting one later in the draft. They said they have a lot of picks but a lot of holes to fill and if they have to go with what they have now on the roster for a year, the FA is fine with that.
I still don't know how you can play both ways in the NFL, but I've seen Clevelands coach say they'd be open to it
 
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I heard the Cleveland beat reporter on the NFL network this morning, and they are leaning towards Hunter, and want to play his at WR first and CB in spots. There reasoning is that it takes more time to learn the WR position and get in time with the QB. The guy stated that they did not think there was a QB worth the 2nd pick in the draft and will be better off waiting and then drafting one later in the draft. They said they have a lot of picks but a lot of holes to fill and if they have to go with what they have now on the roster for a year, the FA is fine with that.
To clarify, would he be a CB first and WR in spots? I can see where he would be a situational WR such as red zones
 
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I still don't know how you can play both ways in the NFL, but I've seen Clevelands coach say they'd be open to it
They were talking limited package of plays for him on defense, said he was such a great athlete that he would be fine playing a few defensive series but do most of the work on offense. One of the announcers, that played for SF and had played with Prime said he would do it the other way around, have a limit package on offense, mostly slants and long passes and let him work with the defense most of the time, again just a limited number of plays on one side of the ball, not like he was in college starting both ways.
 
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The Sanders camp better be begging Tomlin to draft him at 21 or he’s looking at round 2. Maybe the Steelers will move back and grab him late first round but they don’t have a second round pick.

I don’t see Jacksonville trading out of 5 if Jeanty is there, they’ll draft him if that’s the case. If Chicago wants him, they’ll have to trade with the Patriots at 4.

For the ISU guys I’d say Higgins and Noel are round 2 guys. Porter is more all over the board but pretty confident he’ll be drafted Friday night. Travis has an outside chance at being a round 3 guy because the tackle class is pretty weak and his size and athleticism is well worth the upside in round 3.
 

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They were talking limited package of plays for him on defense, said he was such a great athlete that he would be fine playing a few defensive series but do most of the work on offense. One of the announcers, that played for SF and had played with Prime said he would do it the other way around, have a limit package on offense, mostly slants and long passes and let him work with the defense most of the time, again just a limited number of plays on one side of the ball, not like he was in college starting both ways.
I think the primarily defense, sprinkling in on offense is a kind of the old way of thinking.

Most of the predictions the last couple of weeks have him mostly offense with a little bit of defense.

Offenses are so complex nowadays with all of the pre-snap reads, I think he needs to put more focus on offense (film room, relationship with QB, etc.)
 

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I still don't know how you can play both ways in the NFL, but I've seen Clevelands coach say they'd be open to it

The most Browns thing ever would be Cleveland saying he can only play 1 and Hunter actually saying "**** it" and walking away from the game.
 

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One benefit with Hunter is that if he is somewhat of a "bust" at one side of the ball, the Browns could shift his focus to the other side.

Hunter and Abdul Carter seem to be the consensus top talent in this draft. If you are Cleveland or the Giants, I think you have to take one of those two. Reaching on a QB isn't going to help them and if you are picking in the top five of the draft, you need to focus on loading up on talent (take best players available).
 

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The Sanders camp better be begging Tomlin to draft him at 21 or he’s looking at round 2. Maybe the Steelers will move back and grab him late first round but they don’t have a second round pick.

I don’t see Jacksonville trading out of 5 if Jeanty is there, they’ll draft him if that’s the case. If Chicago wants him, they’ll have to trade with the Patriots at 4.

For the ISU guys I’d say Higgins and Noel are round 2 guys. Porter is more all over the board but pretty confident he’ll be drafted Friday night. Travis has an outside chance at being a round 3 guy because the tackle class is pretty weak and his size and athleticism is well worth the upside in round 3.
I’d be curious on how much the Sanders falling stuff is just smokescreen. I get there are some obvious red flags, but I think the “he’s not that good” stuff is overblown. He has as much talent as some of the QBs taken in the first round last year.

For the life of me, I can’t imagine why New Orleans would pass on him if he dropped to them. They are going to be awful either way. They are in cap hell, so a rookie QB contract is a saving grace. Derek Carr is injured and who knows when he’ll be ready (and is terrible anyway). And a Sanders on the roster would increase buzz and ticket sales for franchise.

Even if the Saints didn’t think he was worthy of that high a pick on talent alone, he brings enough intangibles to be worth it imo. Especially considering the current state of the team/franchise.
 

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I’d be curious on how much the Sanders falling stuff is just smokescreen. I get there are some obvious red flags, but I think the “he’s not that good” stuff is overblown. He has as much talent as some of the QBs taken in the first round last year.

For the life of me, I can’t imagine why New Orleans would pass on him if he dropped to them. They are going to be awful either way. They are in cap hell, so a rookie QB contract is a saving grace. Derek Carr is injured and who knows when he’ll be ready (and is terrible anyway). And a Sanders on the roster would increase buzz and ticket sales for franchise.

Even if the Saints didn’t think he was worthy of that high a pick on talent alone, he brings enough intangibles to be worth it imo. Especially considering the current state of the team/franchise.
The buzz is that the Saints and Giants are completely out on Sanders.
 

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I’d be curious on how much the Sanders falling stuff is just smokescreen. I get there are some obvious red flags, but I think the “he’s not that good” stuff is overblown. He has as much talent as some of the QBs taken in the first round last year.

For the life of me, I can’t imagine why New Orleans would pass on him if he dropped to them. They are going to be awful either way. They are in cap hell, so a rookie QB contract is a saving grace. Derek Carr is injured and who knows when he’ll be ready (and is terrible anyway). And a Sanders on the roster would increase buzz and ticket sales for franchise.

Even if the Saints didn’t think he was worthy of that high a pick on talent alone, he brings enough intangibles to be worth it imo. Especially considering the current state of the team/franchise.

1) He really is "not that good".
2) Last year, 6 QBs went in the first 12 picks. Then zero QB until Spencer Rattler in R5. Sanders would rank behind all 6 of the R1 QB last year as a prospect.
3) Some teams might still be desperate enough for a starting QB to take Sanders in R1 (and Milroe), especially in this class where only one or two prospects are considered possible year one starters. e.g. Giants, Saints, Steelers.
 

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I wouldn’t touch him in the entire 1st rd if I were a GM. Way too much risk there.
I mostly agree with you, but that’s just due to being a running back in 2025 more than him specifically.

It seems like the RB and QB talent isn’t all that high (pre-draft, at least…) so I could see him as a decent late first round pick.. but tbh, I’d rather spend a first round pick on an athletic freak edge or CB or OL or something. Maybe a WR if there’s a need for a team.
 

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I mostly agree with you, but that’s just due to being a running back in 2025 more than him specifically.

It seems like the RB and QB talent isn’t all that high (pre-draft, at least…) so I could see him as a decent late first round pick.. but tbh, I’d rather spend a first round pick on an athletic freak edge or CB or OL or something. Maybe a WR if there’s a need for a team.
More RB in this draft than usual is all I've heard. Just no Saquon maybe.
 

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I don’t think that there’s any way Noel and Higgins make it out of R2. Porter maybe R3, but more likely R2. I think there’s a chance Noel could sneak into the end of R1, but it’s not very likely.
I don't think Porter makes it out of R2 either. With his athleticism and upside someone will take him knowing that he'll be a willing and standout special teams player from day one.
 

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1) He really is "not that good".
2) Last year, 6 QBs went in the first 12 picks. Then zero QB until Spencer Rattler in R5. Sanders would rank behind all 6 of the R1 QB last year as a prospect.
3) Some teams might still be desperate enough for a starting QB to take Sanders in R1 (and Milroe), especially in this class where only one or two prospects are considered possible year one starters. e.g. Giants, Saints, Steelers.
1.) He is 1st round worthy imo

2.) Not a professional scout, but in my uninformed opinion, after watching several of each’s games, I’d take Sanders over McCarthy in a heartbeat.

3.) I see why the Giants would pass on him when you can get immediate impact starters in Hunter or Carter at 3. I see why other teams teams less desperate would pass on him. My point was the Saints SHOULD be that desperate to take him at 9. If not for on the field reasons, for off the field reasons (rookies contract at QB, will bring immediate buzz, ticket sales, merchandise sales, they’re going to stink anyway so it’s lower risk, higher reward).
 

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