Tyrese Hunter Entering the Transfer Portal - NIL Speculation

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Doesn't appear it's posted. Not even sure there is one this week with the holiday. Guessing the other poster was saying we'll probably learn some stuff on the podcast should one be recorded tonight
It’s posted. Williams said he expects hunter to enter the transfer portal in the next 48 hours.
 

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Because 99% of these guys aren’t getting drafted? Why should the schools make hundreds of millions off these athletes without allowing them to get paid by people who value their contribution?
"off these athletes"

No. The value is 99% in the brand of these institutions built up over a century. The value is in alumni bases who would attend and watch even if there was an across the board talent decrease due to more players going pro. 99.99999% of athletes are worth less than the amount they have been being compensated when you add up the value of their scholarships, stipends, training, tutoring, etc. There's a reason that these schools were already compensating well more than the lower rungs of pro leagues (the best indicator of their true market value), and why athletes chose to go to school rather than jump to professional options elsewhere. But all for the benefit of that .00001% that have a pro future ahead of them, the entire college sports model is getting ruined.
 

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And those places have the luxury of many willing donors. ISU doesn't have that. Our big donors are very limited and the ISU Athletic Department can't afford to turn away donations and point them to NIL funds.
good god, it is the opposite. ISU can't afford to not be very organized and direct and funnel donor money to NIL while also avoid tragedy of the commons on the small donor level.
NIL is fundamentally a donation to the department, and by far the best one. Not even close. Just what exactly do you think the ultimate point of donations are?
 

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How about this…can we agree the players need some compensation but there needs to be at least 1-2 rules in place. My gosh it’s like everyone has lost their minds. Its gotten really dirty and money is out of control already and we only a few months into it.
It’s hard to believe money hungry humans are going to ruin college sports in general all in the matter of 12 years when conference crap started. Can’t believe we all managed to do this for 100 years without everyone turning into complete dumbazzes.
 

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Did it basically confirm? I'll listen tomorrow.

Good luck to the kid, glad for what he did for ISU...didn't see this happening though so pretty stupid watching it unfold just now.

Yes, expected but not yet confirmed. Destination unknown.
 

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good god, it is the opposite. ISU can't afford to not be very organized and direct and funnel donor money to NIL while also avoid tragedy of the commons on the small donor level.
NIL is fundamentally a donation to the department, and by far the best one. Not even close. Just what exactly do you think the ultimate point of donations are?

I hear you but we are going to be taking a big hit on potential tv revenue next renewal which someone is going to have to also buffer that. I think the point is we don’t have a bunch of oil tycoons sitting around.
 

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I trust otz to recruit. But what keeps stars from ever returning to Ames after a good season in the NIL era...

Are we average forever unless Ames High starts putting out 4-5 stats every year?
 

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"off these athletes"

No. The value is 99% in the brand of these institutions built up over a century. The value is in alumni bases who would attend and watch even if there was an across the board talent decrease due to more players going pro. 99.99999% of athletes are worth less than the amount they have been being compensated when you add up the value of their scholarships, stipends, training, tutoring, etc. There's a reason that these schools were already compensating well more than the lower rungs of pro leagues (the best indicator of their true market value), and why athletes chose to go to school rather than jump to professional options elsewhere. But all for the benefit of that .00001% that have a pro future ahead of them, the entire college sports model is getting ruined.

I'll just never understand how we got to a place where the value of a totally free college education with enormous amenities for athletes is has zero value in terms of compensation.
 

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I trust otz to recruit. But what keeps stars from ever returning to Ames after a good season in the NIL era...

Are we average forever unless Ames High starts putting out 4-5 stats every year?

Prior to us getting Tamin Linsey, I believe the last 2 great Ames Players went to other schools and not Iowa State. Harrison Barnes and Doug McDermott.
 
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Podcast is out. He'll be in the portal in the next 48 hours.

Tyrese is testing the waters to see what his worth is. Can't blame him. Just stinks

So going to the Portal. Testing his worth. Could come back if Iowa State coughs up NIL money. Time for Cyclones to decide. Do we want to pay?
 

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I'll just never understand how we got to a place where the value of a totally free college education with enormous amenities for athletes is has zero value in terms of compensation.

Seriously. The offer is a great one. Hell, there are a massive line of students every year who would love to take that offer if these particular ones went and found other opportunities.
 

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No salary cap free agency. And we are a bottom 10% revenue market in the power conferences

And arguably below some outside the power conferences.

And this will only magnify as the tv deal revenue disparity between the big 12 and the big10\SEC widens over time. (Yes, the schools are not currently paying for NIL directly, but when you have all that TV money you can afford to point more of your big donors towards NIL options)
 

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"off these athletes"

No. The value is 99% in the brand of these institutions built up over a century. The value is in alumni bases who would attend and watch even if there was an across the board talent decrease due to more players going pro. 99.99999% of athletes are worth less than the amount they have been being compensated when you add up the value of their scholarships, stipends, training, tutoring, etc. There's a reason that these schools were already compensating well more than the lower rungs of pro leagues (the best indicator of their true market value), and why athletes chose to go to school rather than jump to professional options elsewhere. But all for the benefit of that .00001% that have a pro future ahead of them, the entire college sports model is getting ruined.
It is undeniable that these players have market value. That is why NIL/pay-to-play is so ominous to us. 200k will be $2 million soon because fans want better chances of winning and will pay it at most places.

It is not dissimilar to coaches. ISU can find any high school coach pay him 75k and have the possibility of going 2-22. Revenue doesn't change that much in near term. But we overpay for that extra edge in what we think is a better coach, even though there are no guarantees he will be good or will stay, or that we'll even want him.

Players also aren't commoditized. There may be others we could plug in, but there's a huge recruiting industry built on the fact there is a market for obtaining different inputs.

Brand and revenue is built on having consistently better players.