I'm guessing that in a power 32 conference the fan base that's use to winning 7-10 games a yr isn't going to be very happy taking a sub .500 season. No matter how it's set up someone has to take a loss.
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More than USC would be invited because TV audience, sponsorship potential, etc will come into play. Plus I think they would want some geographic rivals. I would think UCLA, Cal or Stanford, Oregon and Washington would all get considered.
I think the current Pac12 issue is because all programs but CU are Pacific time zone. In a 32 team elite model if there only a few west coast games a week, it becomes less of a broadcast issue. People are more apt to watch a cross sectional game like Texas or Ohio State vs. Stanford.
Greed always wins out so if the Ohio States, Alabama's or Texas can find a way to keep a bigger share of the TV rights pie, they will.
Did you enjoy that Browns @ Patriots game the other day? Yikes! Give me the NFC North or give me death!
I think people would stop watching the schools that pay players - people don't watch the pro minor leagues now. Take basketball for example: When is g league night on ESPN? The worst g league team is better than the best college team and they can't get on TV. Paid college teams would be the 3rd best pro league in the US. I think the ameture model is a big part of the draw for audiences
Larry Scott has ran the PAC12 into the ground and has no idea how to make TV and media rights work. Why are people listening to him. Teams in his conference are the ones that come up when people talk of the teams leaving.
Also if you go to something like 32 teams you will turn a lot of people off of college sports.
Also if you go to something like 32 teams you will turn a lot of people off of college sports.
My question is if no NCAA in NFL lite, what prevents Freshman from heading to the NFL after a great season?This would just be NFL G-league.
Well, the richest entity in terms of TV rights is the NFL, and everyone gets an equal share regardless of whether a small market, irrelevant team, or big brands like the Cowboys. The richest conferences, the SEC and Big 10, also were the conferences most willing to have wealth redistribution.
The P5 shouldn’t pay for non-P5 programs, but I don’t see 32 being the magic number.
Yeah this looks like my old high school papers that needed to be 3 pages long when I only had 1+ pages of information!
Regarding the 32-team CFB model: The pool of "absolutes" for inclusion would be easy to predict. But the closer you get to the cut-off point ... who gets in, who doesn't?
I you think NCAA Tournament bubble-talk brings debate each March, imagine what would erupt with last-in/first-out for determining final 32 for the Elite League, with big money and exposure at stake.
I you think NCAA Tournament bubble-talk brings debate each March, imagine what would erupt with last-in/first-out for determining final 32 for the Elite League, with big money and exposure at stake.
The difference is that folks are already attached to their Universities, but nobody is attached to G-League teams. So, I do think a Super League of teams like Alabama, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Southern California, etc. would be very successful. I also think the next level (which would be similar to the way it is now) with teams like Iowa State, Purdue, Mizzou, Wash. State, etc. would also be successful. I would actually prefer it, as teams like Iowa State would actually have a real chance to win Championships (Think Big Xii without OU and Texas). This level could add some of the best programs from the G5 to replace the Super teams that leave. Then, the lower G5s can have their own subdivision too. Bottom line is that I don't think Iowa State football is threatened by a Super League of 32 or less and might find it liberating.
Meh. I recall in my lifetime this thing called the AFL. No way they could compete with the NFL. But then the Chiefs destroyed the Vikings. The end of the league via merger. No way those 32 will continue to separate themselves from the pack. Heck, we should be able to beat Texas this year. Why on earth should they be elevated to a higher status? Or, the simple fact we beat Oklahoma a couple years ago. Bottomline: ISU is too close to those schools to demote them. And, as far as money goes, I could never understand why those schools have more money. Alumni count alone would put the University of Illinois in the hunt for wealth. C'mon folks. This 'A' league approach is protectionism at its best. It'll fail.
Part of me wants to see this happen. I’d love to see some of those “super teams” get taken down a notch. As has been mentioned before in this thread, can you imagine an Ohio State, Alabama, LSU, “lil ole” Clemson, Michigan, etc, etc going 2-10/1-11, and possibly having that happen multiple times in a row? Might cause riots.
Great point. And they can say "at least we're in the A league". Boy, I'll bet that's WEEEE WEEEE WEEEE all the way home
The problem is in terms of media "college football" coverage, shows, articles become synonymous with the 32 team league. The dollars will absolutely dry up for the lesser league as it will have zero importance in the eyes of sports media and as a result zero importance in the eyes of all but the die hards.
I'm sure there were UNI fans that were glad when Creighton and WSU left the valley but realize that eventually playing in a trash one bid league eventually catches up to you. Now every game they play save for the Conf Tourney is completely meaningless. At least they have a chance to get in the NCAA tournament and play at the highest level. A league outside the 32 power teams would be worse than that. This would destroy ISU football. And most of those fans that lose interest in their non-power league teams aren't going to start becoming big fans of one if the 32. It's just an NFL with far less talent.
I think in the long term everybody loses in this scenario, maybe except the NFL.
There’s little chance the 32 tier happens without first stopping at 64/65 schools paying athletes, then something less as schools opt out for a more traditional “collegiate” model. It would have to be gradual, and include some form of relegation
Honestly I believe the single largest obstacle to a 32 team 'amateur' college super conference would be the US Congress.
In forming that super conference there would be many states left out. Those states would probably have powerful Senators that could threaten the tax exempt status of this new conference and the participating schools.
In forming that super conference there would be many states left out. Those states would probably have powerful Senators that could threaten the tax exempt status of this new conference and the participating schools.
Run college football like the Premier league, with fluid tiers of teams jockeying for position every year.
Realistically it is going to take years to sort out how the endorsement rights stuff sorts itself out. The NCAA is going to try and write rules to keep it in check and everyone playing nice. I think they know that if it gets too out of balance, bad stuff happens for them--meaning, renewed interest from easily offended political figures about their tax exempt status. I think, from TV networks and across the landscape of college football there is no desire to do anything that upsets the apple cart too much.
I also believe the value of streaming college football is too hard to determine at this early stage to be much of a game changer. Live sports is very valuable on network TV and streaming isn't as reliable as it will need to be to force people to dump what they are familiar with.
So put me in the camp that believes very little happens this go around.
I also believe the value of streaming college football is too hard to determine at this early stage to be much of a game changer. Live sports is very valuable on network TV and streaming isn't as reliable as it will need to be to force people to dump what they are familiar with.
So put me in the camp that believes very little happens this go around.
Yeah this looks like my old high school papers that needed to be 3 pages long when I only had 1+ pages of information!
Oh man I did so much to try to cheat the system. Increase line spacing to like 1.3 where it's as recognizable, turn the margins way up.
