Agree. There is going to be a lot of turmoil and infighting when you have players that picked a school based on it's success, only to find out that the success is over for a while.
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Agree. There is going to be a lot of turmoil and infighting when you have players that picked a school based on it's success, only to find out that the success is over for a while.
We should be first in that line.
This is where I'm at as well. The start to Baylor's conference slate is going to absolutely break them. It's going to be fun to watch Baylor roll the tarp back out because this program is going to keep sliding. Baylor has lost a ton of talent over the last 2 years and they haven't filled the pipeline with the players that they were getting under AB.
You can bet your *** that if UT, TCU, Tech, OU, and OSU have the chance to run it up on Baylor they are going to. These teams have a lot to benefit from Baylor's program taking a nose dive.
I know Campbell wasn't here for 71-7, but he should get on the train. He should be chucking it deep until the final bell sounds. Everybody in the Big 12 benefits from Baylor being put down hard.
Eh, Briles isn't there and the athletes who were on his teams, for the most part, aren't there either. It would accomplish nothing.
I've got it as follows:
Should win:
Texas Tech
Baylor
Kansas
Could win:
Texas
KSU
WVU
TCU
Better not need to win:
OU
OSU
So I imagine we will win 2 of 3 in the first column, because I've seen enough to know they'll be a letdown in a "should win" game somewhere, that means we have to pick up 2 out of Texas, KSU, WVU and TCU. I like our chances.
Should win:
Texas Tech
Baylor
Kansas
Could win:
Texas
KSU
WVU
TCU
Better not need to win:
OU
OSU
So I imagine we will win 2 of 3 in the first column, because I've seen enough to know they'll be a letdown in a "should win" game somewhere, that means we have to pick up 2 out of Texas, KSU, WVU and TCU. I like our chances.
Man there's a ton of negativity on here. When Baylor loses to Liberty and Texas loses to Maryland you would think people understand anything goes. This team has talent, and has shown they can battle through adversity. Everyone was hinging our season on beating Iowa to qualify for a bowl, there's 9 games left. WTF is everyone so damn scared of.
KSU just lost to Vanderbilt, and only scored 7 points... Texas, TTU, Baylor, KU, WVU are all beatable on any given day. Hell, I won't even say there's a team that is impossible for us to beat. Stranger things have happened.
KSU just lost to Vanderbilt, and only scored 7 points... Texas, TTU, Baylor, KU, WVU are all beatable on any given day. Hell, I won't even say there's a team that is impossible for us to beat. Stranger things have happened.
I think Texas is a big game from the standpoint of winning means ISU has legit wiggle room later. I agree with the sentiment that there are plenty of winnable conf games ahead, but I'd sure feel good at 3-1. 2-2 would have me nervous with 3 of the last 4 on the road.
I think Baylor and KU are wins. I'd like to say Tech too, but they'll pose offensive problems as usual, and probably be fired up to kick ISU's ass after last year. They had a ton of player defection the last few years, and will be thin on defense. Winning on the road in the Big 12 aint easy, and ISU will need it's share of roadies to get to a bowl game. Outside of the Mahomes going crazy game, ISU has actually played Tech really tough down in Lubbock since Rhoads was here. Something that better programs in this conference can't say!
My hope for this season is to claw into a bowl game, then next year get notorious road chump programs in our backyard with Park as a senior. BU & Tech for example, and maybe even beat KSU in JTS for the 1st time since 2007.
I think Baylor and KU are wins. I'd like to say Tech too, but they'll pose offensive problems as usual, and probably be fired up to kick ISU's ass after last year. They had a ton of player defection the last few years, and will be thin on defense. Winning on the road in the Big 12 aint easy, and ISU will need it's share of roadies to get to a bowl game. Outside of the Mahomes going crazy game, ISU has actually played Tech really tough down in Lubbock since Rhoads was here. Something that better programs in this conference can't say!
My hope for this season is to claw into a bowl game, then next year get notorious road chump programs in our backyard with Park as a senior. BU & Tech for example, and maybe even beat KSU in JTS for the 1st time since 2007.
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Freeze-framing after week 3, I’d organize our eight Big 12 opponents into four tiers at this point (alphabetical within each … so it isn’t a strict ranking):
Tier 1: Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
Tier 2: TCU, West Virginia
Tier 3: Kansas State, Texas, Texas Tech
Tier 4: Baylor, Kansas
Obviously not set in stone, still early in the season and pecking-order will fluctuate. Also, within a few weeks, it may work better to organize it into 3 sets of 3 (I feel like I’m playing “Phase 10” … I digress).
Using that as template, as far as path-to-bowl, where does ISU fit? We’re probably in Tier 3 territory at the moment. Assuming 6 wins is required for postseason (never rely on a bid at 5-7):
Tier 1: 0-2
Tier 2: 0-2
Tier 3: 2-1
Tier 4: 2-0
I think we could steal a home win vs. TCU, which alleviates pressure for Tier 3 results. Cannot afford a loss to Tier 4, unless there’s an unlikely balancing-upset, or we’re perfect vs. Tier 3.
Tier 1: Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
Tier 2: TCU, West Virginia
Tier 3: Kansas State, Texas, Texas Tech
Tier 4: Baylor, Kansas
Obviously not set in stone, still early in the season and pecking-order will fluctuate. Also, within a few weeks, it may work better to organize it into 3 sets of 3 (I feel like I’m playing “Phase 10” … I digress).
Using that as template, as far as path-to-bowl, where does ISU fit? We’re probably in Tier 3 territory at the moment. Assuming 6 wins is required for postseason (never rely on a bid at 5-7):
Tier 1: 0-2
Tier 2: 0-2
Tier 3: 2-1
Tier 4: 2-0
I think we could steal a home win vs. TCU, which alleviates pressure for Tier 3 results. Cannot afford a loss to Tier 4, unless there’s an unlikely balancing-upset, or we’re perfect vs. Tier 3.
This. There is being optimistic and there is being delusional. Once he guaranteed that we would beat Iowa by 21+ I knew he had been smoking that good ****.
What starts this weekend? You might have better luck showing up next Thursday.
Lets says you have a choice of 3 bowl games which would you choose?
Cactus Bowl Dec 26th 8pm vs Pac 12 team
Heart of Dallas Bowl Dec 26th 1pm vs Big Ten team/C-USA/MAC
Liberty Bowl Dec 30th 11:30am vs SEC
Cactus Bowl Dec 26th 8pm vs Pac 12 team
Heart of Dallas Bowl Dec 26th 1pm vs Big Ten team/C-USA/MAC
Liberty Bowl Dec 30th 11:30am vs SEC
For the sole fact of having Christmas in Arizona, I'd go with the Cactus bowl. But the heart of dallas is interesting as having a MAC team in a bowl game would be a great opportunity for a nationally televised dominate bowl win.
Selfishly, I pick the Heart of Dallas Bowl because my commute to the game would be around 30 minutes.
In reality, I would like to see the Cactus Bowl or Liberty Bowl because of the opponent. Iowa State beating (hopefully) a Pac 12 or SEC team trumps a win over C-USA or MAC school. I would however pick a Cyhawk rematch in the Heart of Dallas Bowl over any of the above.
The dude is completing 66.7% of his passes and has 8 tds to 2 INTs. I mean c'mon. Yes, when he misses he misses high but it's not like he is completing 53% of his passes and has a 2/1 TD ratio.
Last year...iSu gave up the most sacks against
TCU-5
Okie St-7
Texas-6
That was before Park was seeing a lot of time. Once Park started seeing more time...we never allowed more than 2 sacks per game. That was aginast OU, KSU, KU, TT, and WV. QBHs also drastically went down. Part of that was OL improvement and part of that was Park getting rid of the ball.
Park is getting rid of the ball much quicker this year and making better reads. He has more weapons than last year.
He will not be hurried every other play. That is just an exaggeration. His completion % will go down and he will face better defenses but let's not exaggerate
Texas has MUCH better talent and speed. Baylor has better talent and speed but not MUCH better. Their recruiting and attrition have hurt them the last couple of years.
