2025-2025 Transfer Portal Needs, Wants, Updates

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Quick math says 3 deep per weight.

125 - Meza, Castillo, Perryman
133 - Grice, Diversent, Pearson
141 - Frost, Frost, Koester
149 - Ech, Kane Naak, ?
157 - Paniro, ?. ?
165 - Riggins, Euton, Rojas (surprised he isn't leaving), Jacob Helgeson
174 - MJ, Tate Naak
184 - Bartelt, Nando, Caleb Helgeson
197 - Nate Schon, ?, ?
285 - Bastida, Carter, Herrera

There is 25 guys that should certainly be on the roster unless someone else leaves.
looking at manny rojas wrestlestat is really confusing. hes beaten some really good guys but cant seem to put it all together and take the next step. Really hope he does cause hes fun to watch and seems like a great kid
 
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looking at manny rojas wrestlestat is really confusing. hes beaten some really good guys but cant seem to put it all together and take the next step. Really hope he does cause hes fun to watch and seems like a great kid
Agree but I assume we would have seen him last year if could beat any of Euton, Riggins or Gaitan.
 

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Which is why I’m surprised he isn’t leaving for different pastures. He might just need a fresh start somewhere else. He’s also had a handful of injuries it seems like
I would guess Wisconsin or Michigan State if he wants to stay DI or maybe down to Grand View like Cam Robinson. Or CRTC for a year. Hope good things no matter what.
 

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I think there are a few that are going to move to the RTC or club that we won’t hear about for awhile since they won’t be on the portal wire

Help me with the “move to RTC” logic. Are we talking about a grey shirt type situation? Because there’s a lot of guys in the roster who are just not D1 quality. There’s room for keeping some of them as room guys but I don’t see the logic in paying them valuable RTC money to stick around.
 

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Help me with the “move to RTC” logic. Are we talking about a grey shirt type situation? Because there’s a lot of guys in the roster who are just not D1 quality. There’s room for keeping some of them as room guys but I don’t see the logic in paying them valuable RTC money to stick around.
Wouldn’t necessarily be any different than a walk on now. Get to be coached & train with team & staff. I assume can then go to open tournaments just like they do now

Instead of wrestling unattached, wrestling with CRTC label

Don’t have to be getting paid to train with CRTC
 
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Help me with the “move to RTC” logic. Are we talking about a grey shirt type situation? Because there’s a lot of guys in the roster who are just not D1 quality. There’s room for keeping some of them as room guys but I don’t see the logic in paying them valuable RTC money to stick around.
Who says there is a requirement to pay every rtc guy?
 

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Wouldn’t necessarily be any different than a walk on now. Get to be coached & train with team &!staff. I assume can then go to open tournaments just like they do now

Instead of wrestling unattached, wrestling with CRTC label

Don’t have to be getting paid to train with CRTC

I assume we have a number of guys low on the depth chart that we think of as “walk ons” but are still getting a grand or three each semester in scholarship money. Is the RTC going to pick up the tab? And what about tournament entries and expenses like transportation and housing if needed? Also, I was thinking RTC practices were largely separate. Am I wrong on that? Plus it’s a freestyle club. So they are going to then enter college folk style opens?

Also, as I type this, I’m questioning the draw for a wrestler to do this. No chance to move up a depth chart, no chance to wrestle under the lights at Hilton, etc. Just feels like a glorified version of the ISU wrestling club.

Ok, I’m done. I hope that doesn’t come off as critical. I’m just thinking out loud.
 

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I assume we have a number of guys low on the depth chart that we think of as “walk ons” but are still getting a grand or three each semester in scholarship money. Is the RTC going to pick up the tab? And what about tournament entries and expenses like transportation and housing if needed? Also, I was thinking RTC practices were largely separate. Am I wrong on that? Plus it’s a freestyle club. So they are going to then enter college folk style opens?

Also, as I type this, I’m questioning the draw for a wrestler to do this. No chance to move up a depth chart, no chance to wrestle under the lights at Hilton, etc. Just feels like a glorified version of the ISU wrestling club.

Ok, I’m done. I hope that doesn’t come off as critical. I’m just thinking out loud.
I would assume the staff will look at the budget given by the University and CRTC and decide what can be done. The CNG Collective and CRTC can allocate funds a little differently, I assume, if necessary.

I would assume it will not be much different now for the athletes as far as Open tournaments. Just a matter of who pays for what.

I think the budget did get cut by 10% and we are not getting any of the Iowa State revenue sharing money. I thought I read that the scholarships go against the revenue sharing limit and that is why the Men's BB team is supposedly staying at 13 instead of going to 15. So I don't know if the Wrestling teams scholarships goes against the Revenue sharing amount since they are not getting any NIL money for that budget.
 

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Just to add to everyone’s anxiety here ISUs top 100 recruits over the past few years:

2021 -none- Paniro is best if this class

2022 - Swid (2), MJ (17), Rojas (20) Notables Frosts/Euton

2023 - Naak (33), Hagerty (89)

Throw in Chittum (1) and CC (1)

Of the seven Top 100 recruits. I believe Swid is the lone AA.
We either need to lean into the portal, identify high level HS talent better, or open up the international pipeline more. Preferably all three. Unfortunately teams will no longer have the luxury of developing kids. The probability of the transferring or getting poached is high. The pressure on these coaches to retain what you have while trying to recruit HS and portal kids is insane.
 
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Just to add to everyone’s anxiety here ISUs top 100 recruits over the past few years:

2021 -none- Paniro is best if this class

2022 - Swid (2), MJ (17), Rojas (20) Notables Frosts/Euton

2023 - Naak (33), Hagerty (89)

Throw in Chittum (1) and CC (1)

Of the seven Top 100 recruits. I believe Swid is the lone AA.
We either need to lean into the portal, identify high level HS talent better, or open up the international pipeline more. Preferably all three. Unfortunately teams will no longer have the luxury of developing kids. The probability of the transferring or getting poached is high. The pressure on these coaches to retain what you have while trying to recruit HS and portal kids is insane.

Using top 100 as a measuring stick isn’t a good one, IMHO. Guys ranked above around 50 generally do not have the profile of an all American. The curveball are international guys like our Cubans who don’t fall into those category.

Finally, a program like ISU has a strong culture currently, and a few bucks to spend. The chances of an ISU wrestler being poached is pretty low. Other programs have tried like hell with Yonger the past two years and come up empty.
 

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Using top 100 as a measuring stick isn’t a good one, IMHO. Guys ranked above around 50 generally do not have the profile of an all American. The curveball are international guys like our Cubans who don’t fall into those category.

Finally, a program like ISU has a strong culture currently, and a few bucks to spend. The chances of an ISU wrestler being poached is pretty low. Other programs have tried like hell with Yonger the past two years and come up empty.
Of the top 100 guys he listed, only 1 was ranked outside the top 35 so not sure what your point was. And both Frost boys are now All-Americans and neither were ranked top 100. Kid from Iowa generally don’t get ranked high because of a limited in-season schedule where they stay inside the state. Doesn’t mean the talent isn’t there and they can’t develop once they get into a college room. Stephen Buchanan wasn’t a top 100 recruit
 
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I wasnt trying to be controversial with my original post. I was simply pointing out that our top ranked kids haven’t really panned out to date. I’m all for bringing in a variety of all types of talent but we do have to do a much better job of either keeping the HS recruiting going and/or amp up our international and portal activities. I’m more old school and prefer to recruit our own kids that we can watch grow and cheer for year after year. That’s probably more of an outlier now than the norm.