Lunardi and Palm now project Iowa State as a 4-seed as Selection Sunday nears

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I despise the Luardi pimping by ESPN during Dec/Jan. So don't pay any attention and mute TV when he's on. Why some fans get so focused on seeding, amazes me.

Putting ISU at a 4 seed is probably right. And it wouldn't have been surprised by a 5 seed depending how the committee seeded Clemson & Memphis.

The Clones finished 5th in the Big12 regular season. And we lost twice in the season to the Big12 4th place team BYU. So we should be 5th in the Big12 pecking order.

I would expect these schools to be seeded higher than ISU:
  • Big 12 (4): Houston, TT, Arizona, BYU
  • SEC (4): Auburn, Tennessee, Florida, Alabama
  • Big 10 (4): MSU, Michigan, Maryland & Wisconsin (good Tournament)
  • ACC (2): Duke & Louisville
  • Big East (1): St Johns
The other reality is we were bascially a .500 team the last couple months. So it's not like we had a strong finish to push for a 3 seed.
 

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I despise the Luardi pimping by ESPN during Dec/Jan. So don't pay any attention and mute TV when he's on. Why some fans get so focused on seeding, amazes me.

Putting ISU at a 4 seed is probably right. And it wouldn't have been surprised by a 5 seed depending how the committee seeded Clemson & Memphis.

The Clones finished 5th in the Big12 regular season. And we lost twice in the season to the Big12 4th place team BYU. So we should be 5th in the Big12 pecking order.

I would expect these schools to be seeded higher than ISU:
  • Big 12 (4): Houston, TT, Arizona, BYU
  • SEC (4): Auburn, Tennessee, Florida, Alabama
  • Big 10 (4): MSU, Michigan, Maryland & Wisconsin (good Tournament)
  • ACC (2): Duke & Louisville
  • Big East (1): St Johns
The other reality is we were bascially a .500 team the last couple months. So it's not like we had a strong finish to push for a 3 seed.
If you assume we won't have Momcilovic and won't have Gilbert.
 
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It’s a bit ironic that winning the Big 12 tourney last year didn’t help us at all but whatever…
But I think we are talking two different filters by the Selection Committee. Last year the complaint was we didn't get a 1 seed. But it was pretty clear the Committee's pecking order was:
  1. Power 6 - Regular & Conference Tournament Champ
  2. Power 6 - Regular Season Champ
  3. Power 6 - Conference Tournament Champ (ISU)
When the Committee is looking at 3/4/5 seeds feel like that introduces the arguement for teams trending up (e.g. Wisky is 11-4 over last half of season).
 

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How do you know. The selection committee does emphasize the Conference season. Just look at what happened last year in the committee prioritizing the top seeds.
Yes, conference season matters but we also have unbalanced schedules now. We should be ahead of BYU and Arizona both based on overall body of work and taking injuries into account.
 

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How do you know. The selection committee does emphasize the Conference season. Just look at what happened last year in the committee prioritizing the top seeds.
While the committee will move with the wind, there is no such thing as a conference game to the committee.
 

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I despise the Luardi pimping by ESPN during Dec/Jan. So don't pay any attention and mute TV when he's on. Why some fans get so focused on seeding, amazes me.

Putting ISU at a 4 seed is probably right. And it wouldn't have been surprised by a 5 seed depending how the committee seeded Clemson & Memphis.

The Clones finished 5th in the Big12 regular season. And we lost twice in the season to the Big12 4th place team BYU. So we should be 5th in the Big12 pecking order.

I would expect these schools to be seeded higher than ISU:
  • Big 12 (4): Houston, TT, Arizona, BYU
  • SEC (4): Auburn, Tennessee, Florida, Alabama
  • Big 10 (4): MSU, Michigan, Maryland & Wisconsin (good Tournament)
  • ACC (2): Duke & Louisville
  • Big East (1): St Johns
The other reality is we were bascially a .500 team the last couple months. So it's not like we had a strong finish to push for a 3 seed.
If this is actually what you expect then you are in for a surprise tomorrow.
 

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Committee guy in CBS said they are using performance based metrics more to see who gets into the tournament and productive metrics more for seeding. That bodes well for Iowa State.
I still believe most seeding is done by Friday or Saturday morning.

After reading this, it seems to be a lengthy process. And also kind of gives an insight why tournaments don't have to much weight. Once you get the framework set up it's pretty hard to plug things in as ripple effect would be pretty big. They have to build the brackets after creating a seed list.




 

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