Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

FriendlySpartan

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I agree with your general premise that values are changeable. But value to the TV folks isn't predominately based on W/L's, but viewership and access to highly populated markets.

So while the Huskers might be an average football team, they still draw eyeballs. Could be the NASCAR effect, fans love to see them crash. But in a small population state, is that sustainable?

Then there is a school like Arizona State. They have been horrible in football, but maybe their coach stays and builds that program to be a perennial Big12 power. Phoenix is the 10th largest MSA in the US at 5M people- and growing. Could ASU be attractive to the Big10 in 2030 as an AAU school, large population base and west coast compliment to their current 4 PT zone schools?
ASU and attractive do go hand in hand…
 
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2speedy1

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Wow, didn't realize ASU had managed to get in the AAU. Damn.
Yeah they got added with no med school, something ISU said was basically impossible when we left.

Everyone said its med schools only and ISU saw the writing on the wall, and left, then they go out and add ASU with worse numbers than ISU and also no med school.

So what is the truth?
 

FriendlySpartan

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Yeah they got added with no med school, something ISU said was basically impossible when we left.

Everyone said its med schools only and ISU saw the writing on the wall, and left, then they go out and add ASU with worse numbers than ISU and also no med school.

So what is the truth?
ASU actually is opening a med school. But I do find it weird that ISU bailed out as there are other schools with out med schools in AAU
 

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ASU actually is opening a med school. But I do find it weird that ISU bailed out as there are other schools with out med schools in AAU
Yes, and those places far below our research, still there.

There are schools without a med or eng school that are there, yet we left?

ND made it in last year.

Oregon has no med or eng school

ASU may be adding a med school but that hasnt started yet.

Brandeis doesnt have a med or eng school

etc etc.
 
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To the roots of this thread....

Northern Illinois to the Mountain West is official for football only.

Super vague on other sports. Almost seems like they're daring the MAC to expel them so they don't have to pay the exit fee.
I think the closest MWC trip for NIU is about 1,000 miles (Air Force). Longest distance in MAC is Buffalo (slightly more than 600 miles) (and they aren't on the schedule every season).

Guess I don't blame them for the move. Mountain West has somewhat higher pedigree than MAC (gap not as large as it was pre-Pac-migration).
 

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I think the closest MWC trip for NIU is about 1,000 miles (Air Force). Longest distance in MAC is Buffalo (slightly more than 600 miles) (and they aren't on the schedule every season).

Guess I don't blame them for the move. Mountain West has somewhat higher pedigree than MAC (gap not as large as it was pre-Pac-migration).
They're going to save a bunch of travel money in the Horizon, however.
 
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aeroclone

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Its pretty obvious what their next move is now that Disney has acquired 80% of Fubo. Pretty hilarious that the response to a lawsuit Disney knew it was going to lose was to buy the company suing them.
Looks like Venu is back on the menu, boys!
 

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There could be marketplace reasons, as the announcement mentions. But yesterday DTV & EchoStar (Dish/Sling) jumped into the battle asking the Courts not to dismiss the lawsuit because the anti-trust issue remains. Basically, the JV antitrust issues don't go away just because Disney bought the plaintiff (FUBO).

The other part of the "marketplace" arugument could deal with Disney's acquisition of FUBO. It basically means there are now 2 dominant multi-channel streaming platforms: YTTV & Disney (which owns FUBO & Hulu). All 3 of those products currently cost basically the same, around $83/month. I wonder if FOX & WB started wondering who they got into bed with.

Also, the latest I read, it was speculated the Venu Sports package was going to cost in the neighborhood of $50/mo. vs. low-$40's when Venu was announced While the JV has been proceeding over the last year, Disney/ESPN has been moving forward with their own ESPN standalone direct to consumer product. The is expected to launch August 2025 and cost around $30/month. If Disney believes it can get $30/month for standalone ESPN, why do they need Venu Sports which is still facing legal scrutiny and just adds another platform for Disney to juggle operationally. Afterall they currently have:
  • Hulu, Disney, ESPN+ standalones plus
  • Hulu+ and now Fubo multichannel platforms plus
  • ESPN direct to consumer (August 2025)
Seems like Disney can attack the market two ways:
  1. Multi Channel Platforms (Hulu/Fubo; combined or 2 price/content points)
  2. An a la carte platform where customers can buy: ESPN DTC, ACCN, SECN, ESPN+, Hulu, Disney+ and standalone services offered by other companies (e.g. Max, Paramount, etc.)
 

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Its pretty obvious what their next move is now that Disney has acquired 80% of Fubo. Pretty hilarious that the response to a lawsuit Disney knew it was going to lose was to buy the company suing them.
According to this report, Fubo will not have an exclusive, separate ESPN/Fox/WBD bundle.

 
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Problem is that somehow Fubo is more expensive than YTTV. The point was to eliminate the non-sports channels to save a few bucks, not make it more expensive.

Long term, unbundling via cord cutting was never going to result in cost savings for too many people

DTC may result in a little savings by removing the profit of the middleman, but the production side will be able to capture most of it
 
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