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[deadeyededric]

I'm sorry, but this is just as wrong as people thinking going from a 3-3 to 4-2 is simple. Giving up rushing yards like crazy f*ing matters, whether or not you score or not.

Every fist down we gave up by not stopping the run or getting a sack, guess what, that's 5-8 plays Beau, Malik, coop, JR, Orange had to play.

If we actually stopped the run, and say, saved 10 plays a game - that's 10 more plays for the offense to score...

10 x 12 = its a 120 plays a season where Beau doesn't have to play with one shoulder. Where Malik and Cooper can rest. Man, wouldn't that have been nice with a banged up defense?

If you manage to make it 15 plays a game, that's 150-200 plays a year. That is incredibly massive.
That's at least another 3 serries of offense, which barring 3 incomplete passes, that's probably 90+ seconds to 3-5 minutes of TOP advantage.

It also drastically impacts the field position even if you force a punt, which then impacts the Offensive coordinator's play calling whether we start on the 30, or on the 5. No points were scored, but the chances of us scoring and our time on offense have been drastically reduced by them gaining 30 rushing yads. Its another 3 minutes of game time we don't have to try to come back if we are down or tied.

IT freaking matters.


Both arguments ae just so... head banging. Maybe it's the coach in me.

But the argument of hey, it's easy to go to a 4-2 defense or 3-4 and so easy. No.
Rush yards against don't matter cause they didn't score. No.
The idea that the "rot" has set in and we can just replace CMC...... No.

Agreed. Everything is different. Especially when it comes to LB. It's a completely different position almost. It's hard to find guys that can play in a 3-4

 

[Cyballzz]

So, that's had to do on a keyboard but I'll try.

1) So at the NG , unless in a slant or a blitz call, you beat the crap out of the center and have both A gaps. Most defenses prefer to have the Mike / MLB just fit off the NG and flow box to box (tackle to tackle), Offensive tackle, that is.

2) Your "4i's" will line up with in the B gap or outside eye to inside eye of the offensive tackle (hence the term 4i". Which is slightly wider, by a step or two, than a defensive tackle's typical 3 technique (think Waren Sapp, etc) and again, barring a blitz or stunt call, you have the B gap. Most of the time as a 4 technique when taking on a pulling OL your job is to collide him like a vehicle going to the wrong way, and try to make the ball bounce outside rathe than getting vertical because you have a safety or LB to fill on the outside of you.

3) If you take your 4i on an inside slant, his job would be smash into the offensive guard and wash him down into the center, trying to essentially create an open gap behind him for a blitzing backer or safety.

4) as a 4i, like a true zero technique (head up on the center) , you are going to face a lot of double teams. Similar, actually, potentially more a s 1 technique because you've aligned yourself right between two offensive linemen and your main job is to take on the double team and not get your a** kicked.

5) Typically, in a 3-4 or any 3-3 defense, again, unless you have a fan type package, you are going to not have your defensive linemen responsible for anything in the C gap to E gap and you're primary job is being able to take on blockers. Of course, in a perfect world, you are then going to be able to split the double team, get skinny and flip the hip (generally turning towards the center / inside but again that can change based on the call)



So, for example, say you want to become a 5 technique. Its completely opposite of a 4i. Whereas your kid at 4i is taught, spill the ball, force it outside, that's where my help is...

a 5 technique is taught, "force the ball inside, that's where my help is" they are completely opposite techniques and mindsets. Also, a 5 technique or 6 technique if you want to widen them even further which is what smart teams do to us offensively at times, you have contain. Wheras its harder to have contain from a 4i, especially if the tackle pins you inside so most of the time they aren't going to be asked to do so if they are aligned inside.

Same thing on the interior. If you are a zero technique the staff wants you to be a bad a** MOFO you can eat up two blocks, maybe 3, and not get moved down field and collapse the pocket and keep your shoulders square as long as you can. Again, trying to prevent the ball from getting vertical since you have two gaps.

As a 3 technique especially, most defenses in an even front are going to want a Warren Sapp type, who is going to press vertical on the snap, getting into the backfield, flipping the hip and only being responsible for the "B" gap cause he knows he has the DE outside of him and the Mike or Sam linebacker fitting into the A gap inside of him. So he can dip, rip and go right away.

Again, its a completely different concept.

I know that got really long and it'd be easy to explain on a white board like in a ted talk but this idea it's easy change is just plum wrong

This is football porn right here.

 

[RagingCloner]

Bostick on the move from again. $400k is nice, but i bet PT is better

 

[mkadl]

Did you watch the game? We tried to dedicate more guys to the run, had guys screaming down to try to stop the run and ended up being out of position. When we played our base defense, guys were in position but couldn't tackle. This wasn't an X's and O's problem, it was a Jimmy and Joes problem.

Skattebo problem.

 

[Aclone]

Sorry, last one at least on the front stuff and DL. Not to mention, its all "married."

So say TO aligns as 4i and the call asks him to crash into the OT and try to widden it out. 9 out of 10 times, you ae then going to ask Big Citrus to fit into the A gap play-side (to TO's side) because otherwise you ae going to have two line backers responsible for the B and A gap to that side which, while POSSIBLE, is dicey. And its not realistic to ask TO to both shove a 300+ man one way, and then be athletic enough to turn and play the gap behind him.


Can it be done? Technically, yes. If you have a true, bonafide DUDE at that position. But even, its not recommended. Which is why on most calls if you are fanning a 4i out, he now becomes responsible for the C gap and the backer will blitz or fit inside of him to the B gap. Again, if one of them screws up, your Fed.

Which in general terms - has a higher probability of when stunting with defensive linemen. Because if you get it sure, you decapitate the RB ... however...


a defensive linemen is a little bit like a semi-truck. If Big Citrus gets blocked the wrong direction and his pad level is high... man, its hard for him to put the brakes on and stop direction. Which is why winch pinching on say Goal line and short yardage, that off tackle run is so deadly, cause all you 300+ pounds is going one way, shoved that way by your own momentum and another 300-600 pounds, ... man its hard to stop direction there. Almost impossible.


Again, all, I apologize if I'm going on too long but I can talk D-line play. Not the world's greatest DL teacher or coach but I do have a little bit of an idea of what it takes

I’m not complaining whatsoever. Thank you.

I just haven’t had time to read through them yet, but I’m guessing that you didn’t include one important factor.

The Heacock Effect.

Late in the year, one of the DL dropped the offhand comment—and bomb—that “We don’t pass rush as much as fans think we do”.

To support that, I can only add the Woody video where all the DL pushed to the left at the snap—in order to force the QB to the right (his left), where he got cleaned up after he ran for it.

Fans simplify things to “sacks and hurries”. Jon Heacock is working on entirely another level, where the pass defense led the conference—which is the whole point—without tons of sacks.

Were the defensive stats down this year?

Yep. Seven bajillion injuries does that.

Just like how injuries on the OL sapped a what had been maturing into a league leading offense over the last half.

They’ll be back—and fine—next year.

Thank you for your analysis, sir.

 

[dosry5]

let's try to stay on topic folks

Which one?

 

[demoncore1031]

Wow, how many schools will that be for him? Like 4 so far?

Yep and he has barely played at every school he has been at.

 

[RagingCloner]

Chubba Purdy is in the portal... again.

Looks like he withdrew and is going back to Nevada

 

[alexssdean12]

Rocco Becht
Breece Hall
Allen Lazard
Jaylin Noel
Jake Campos
Domonique Orange

I'm not sure your point. Looking at 247 composite:

Rocco - not a 4 star
Hall - 4 star
Lazard - not recruited by this staff
Noel - not a 4 star
Campos - not recruited by this staff
Orange - 4 star
Foster - not on your list but was a 4 star.. ok but did not live up to 4 star level

In 8 years we've had 2 total 4 stars really live up to the 4 star ranking.

 

[alexssdean12]

Breece hall was quite the bust too imo .....

To be fair is did say "nearly every four star" lol not every four star

Clearly we had some hits that lived up to expectations.. Lazard, Hall, Orange, etc. But we've had more meh's and duds than studs.

 

[CYFanKC]

Jacob Ellis in the portal according to 247 transfer portal page

 

[Lincoln_Cyclone]

Jacob Ellis in the portal according to 247 transfer portal page

Still has his commitment post on his X page...

 

[CySmurf]

I understand, but it takes time for these guys to build cohesion and learn the system. If they are turning over 1/4 of the roster every fall how will these programs ever get a cohesive group ready to play by week 1?

 

[CySmurf]

Why is this talk in the transfer portal thread?

Because JoeFrog is an idiot.

 

[TABack]

1,700+ players in the portal. Saw a stat 23% from last year never found a new program.

 

[Lincoln_Cyclone]

I suggest an 11-0-0 defense, that'll stop the run!
You have 9 guys all crashing in on the line/QB
and 2 guys like DP that rush the edge to pick off any quick out passes.
It'll work every time!

 

[ClonerJams]

Jacob Ellis in the portal according to 247 transfer portal page

Iowa State Cyclones 2025 College Football Transfer Portal Latest Activity

Iowa State Cyclones 2025 College football Transfer Portal Latest Activity

247sports.com

That one is a bit surprising. Definitely not a position we want to see outgoing transfers from.

 

[BigJCy]

Watched this kid a couple times at New Mexico this year and was impressed:

 

[BCClone]

15th out of 16 in Big12 rush defense at 179 yds/game.

Tied for first place in the conference

 

[BCClone]

let's try to stay on topic folks

That joe frog is a moron?