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VeloClone

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I would like to know details of LB injuries. There were so many. Upper body or lower body? Occurring in practices, scrimmages, or games? Occurring in defense or in special teams? If you watch old ISU film from the 90's - there were alot bigger shoulder pads used on LBs and more knee braces on linemen. Are game pads the same as practice pads? How many practices are actually full-contact? Where are surgeries performed? Does conditioning or technique reduce injury occurrences?
I can't answer many of these but I do know they like to keep the surgeries local so they are perfomed over at Vet Med.

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The curse of the Iowa State four star. Look back at our recruiting classes and nearly every four star Iowa State landed doesn't amount to anything. Kohl, Gaines, Deyo, Imming, Dekkers, Pedersen. Verdict is still out on Moore and Neal.

Someone else said it but there's probably a reason when Iowa State lands a four star.....
Breece hall was quite the bust too imo .....
 

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Because it's really difficult to just up and change your scheme mid season when you're having GREAT success with it? It's one thing to throw it in the trash can when you're getting lit up. It's another when you're among the national leaders in getting off the field.

Some of you are ******* terrible at seeing the big picture and using individual results to support your conclusions.

It is not that hard to adjust from a 3-3 to a 3-4 or 4-2. It's also not that difficult to bring pressure to mask the fact that you are playing walkons and 3rd stringers at linebacker.

What's the big picture? Getting it ran down your throat? Having the 101st ranked rush defense? Trust the process I guess?
 
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It is not that hard to adjust from a 3-3 to a 3-4 or 4-2. It's also not that difficult to bring pressure to mask the fact that you are playing walkons and 3rd stringers at linebacker.

What's the big picture? Getting it ran down your throat? Having the 101st ranked rush defense? Trust the process I guess?

We are 10 and ******* 3. Who cares about having the 101st ranked rush defense.

Would you be happy if we were the #1 ranked rush defense but were 3 and 10?

The only thing that matters are wins and loses, and guess what this "******" defense helped win the most games in school history.

10 and 3 is the big picture!!!


Also, unfortunately most of the time when we brought pressure it didn't get there and we ended up giving up a big play.
 

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Duh!
We are 10 and ******* 3. Who cares about having the 101st ranked rush defense.

Would you be happy if we were the #1 ranked rush defense but were 3 and 10?

The only thing that matters are wins and loses, and guess what this "******" defense helped win the most games in school history.

10 and 3 is the big picture!!!


Also, unfortunately most of the time when we brought pressure it didn't get there and we ended up giving up a big play.
Might be time to resurrect some old threads from when we used to run a 4-2 front. There is a reason for the change.
 
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We are 10 and ******* 3. Who cares about having the 101st ranked rush defense.

Would you be happy if we were the #1 ranked rush defense but were 3 and 10?

The only thing that matters are wins and loses, and guess what this "******" defense helped win the most games in school history.

10 and 3 is the big picture!!!


Also, unfortunately most of the time when we brought pressure it didn't get there and we ended up giving up a big play.
People acting like the ranking of the rush defense is somehow more important than the ranking in points allowed. Who the **** cares if teams run up and down the field on us if they aren't scoring very much?
 

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The curse of the Iowa State four star. Look back at our recruiting classes and nearly every four star Iowa State landed doesn't amount to anything. Kohl, Gaines, Deyo, Imming, Dekkers, Pedersen. Verdict is still out on Moore and Neal.

Someone else said it but there's probably a reason when Iowa State lands a four star.....
Rocco Becht
Breece Hall
Allen Lazard
Jaylin Noel
Jake Campos
Domonique Orange
 

BigTurk

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When the turds get flushed...fresh water refills the tank...(the portal giveth...the portal taketh away.)
I understand, but it takes time for these guys to build cohesion and learn the system. If they are turning over 1/4 of the roster every fall how will these programs ever get a cohesive group ready to play by week 1?
 

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I understand, but it takes time for these guys to build cohesion and learn the system. If they are turning over 1/4 of the roster every fall how will these programs ever get a cohesive group ready to play by week 1?

Something to consider in how a team like ASU becomes one of the hottest teams in the country at the end of the year when taking on 18 transfers. If you can keep someone from sneaking up on you early, you can gel and go on a run.
 

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It is not that hard to adjust from a 3-3 to a 3-4 or 4-2. It's also not that difficult to bring pressure to mask the fact that you are playing walkons and 3rd stringers at linebacker.

What's the big picture? Getting it ran down your throat? Having the 101st ranked rush defense? Trust the process I guess?
15th out of 16 in Big12 rush defense at 179 yds/game.
 

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We are 10 and ******* 3. Who cares about having the 101st ranked rush defense.

Would you be happy if we were the #1 ranked rush defense but were 3 and 10?

The only thing that matters are wins and loses, and guess what this "******" defense helped win the most games in school history.

10 and 3 is the big picture!!!


Also, unfortunately most of the time when we brought pressure it didn't get there and we ended up giving up a big play.
The CCG was a disaster, but the overall defense, in terms of yardage and scoring was pretty damn good as a whole this year. That doesn't mean every game was good, but for the season as a whole, the defensive performance was great considering the injuries.

I get people worrying about an aspect of the defense, but I don't get why people don't understand none of this happens in the vacuum. People want to scheme to improve the run defense, that probably has an impact on pass defense. People want to get more sacks, negative plays or turnovers, that probably results in giving up more big plays.

All I care about is how the opposing offense did in terms of scoring and yardage (well, maybe ypg is better) vs. their averages. And I would confidently say that in a vast majority of games over the years, the defense has held teams well below their typical offensive outputs.

Not to say that maybe they need to adjust scheme now that more teams in the Big 12 are using heavier personnel groups and power running, But I don't think we need to overhaul completely based on a few games in a year with massive LB injuries.
 

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ISU Defense:
Yards allowed: 333.0 (48th FBS, 7th BIG 12)
Rushing: 179.2 (102nd FBS, 15th BIG 12)
Passing 153.8 (6th FBS, 1st BIG 12)
Pts: 21.5 (33rd FBS, 4th BIG 12)
 

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The CCG was a disaster, but the overall defense, in terms of yardage and scoring was pretty damn good as a whole this year. That doesn't mean every game was good, but for the season as a whole, the defensive performance was great considering the injuries.

I get people worrying about an aspect of the defense, but I don't get why people don't understand none of this happens in the vacuum. People want to scheme to improve the run defense, that probably has an impact on pass defense. People want to get more sacks, negative plays or turnovers, that probably results in giving up more big plays.

All I care about is how the opposing offense did in terms of scoring and yardage (well, maybe ypg is better) vs. their averages. And I would confidently say that in a vast majority of games over the years, the defense has held teams well below their typical offensive outputs.

Not to say that maybe they need to adjust scheme now that more teams in the Big 12 are using heavier personnel groups and power running, But I don't think we need to overhaul completely based on a few games in a year with massive LB injuries.

That's where I am. As a whole, defense was pretty damn good. Poor play situationally, gave up big plays/run plays, absolutely.

This team still goes as the defense goes. I was hoping that would change and we'd see the offense carry the team through certain games and really pressure opposing defenses with Higgins and Noel on the outside. Our base scheme still favored a 2, or 2+TE set, shrinking the field for the defense while narrowing throwing lanes, and we seemed to get stuck at times.
 
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joefrog

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The CCG was a disaster, but the overall defense, in terms of yardage and scoring was pretty damn good as a whole this year. That doesn't mean every game was good, but for the season as a whole, the defensive performance was great considering the injuries.

I get people worrying about an aspect of the defense, but I don't get why people don't understand none of this happens in the vacuum. People want to scheme to improve the run defense, that probably has an impact on pass defense. People want to get more sacks, negative plays or turnovers, that probably results in giving up more big plays.

All I care about is how the opposing offense did in terms of scoring and yardage (well, maybe ypg is better) vs. their averages. And I would confidently say that in a vast majority of games over the years, the defense has held teams well below their typical offensive outputs.

Not to say that maybe they need to adjust scheme now that more teams in the Big 12 are using heavier personnel groups and power running, But I don't think we need to overhaul completely based on a few games in a year with massive LB injuries.
I think the problem is that it seems to be the same, no matter the opponent.

KU will turn the ball over, if you pressure them.

We didn't at all, probably our worst defensive effort of the regular season.

ASU is a running team.

We appeared to run our exact same defense, which made it quite easy for them.

CMC got outcoached by a 34 year old 2nd year head coach.
 
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ISU Defense:
Yards allowed: 333.0 (48th FBS, 7th BIG 12)
Rushing: 179.2 (102nd FBS, 15th BIG 12)
Passing 153.8 (6th FBS, 1st BIG 12)
Pts: 21.5 (33rd FBS, 4th BIG 12)
Yep time to blow it all up. Top half of the conference in total yds allowed and top 25% in pts? Fire them all