Jamie Pollard had us as the last 2 seed in his submission
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No, he's supposed to vote us as the 4th 1 seed based on objective, factual metrics.
Regardless of how he voted, that's just a stupid answer that tries to cover bothsideism. He is a great AD but between the thin skin and ill-timed remarks, he needs a PR advisor. That's not an answer you give as an AD, let alone at this timing.
I can get on the board with the 2 seed, but the last 2 seed? That implies that we were a 3 or a 4 if we lost to Baylor and even possibly Houston. Thats disrespect all around.
With his thin skin he's going to blow a gasket when he actually has to answer real questions about this.
This. We are focused on Iowa State's seeding naturally, but go watch some of Matt Norlander and Garry Parrish from the past few days. There are some truly baffling seeding decisions this year. FAU as an 8 seed is indefensible. Michigan State getting a 9 when nearly everyone agrees from the media, bracketologists, fans, etc. they should have been in the First Four in Dayton at best.
There are others as well, and as a lot have said, truthfully the committee has done a damn good job with seeding the last several years, but this year is one of the worst in many years.
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I don't think anyone has said either of those things. Nobody thinks we were the #1 overall seed and nobody is mad that we were a 2 seed. It's is comments about why we were the lowest 2 seed, that being because our NCSOS was bad, but also saying that every game is supposedly treated equally.
Or at least the first #2 argued by many in the metrics game. The ‘isn’t in the room’ narrative defending JP went out the window when he admits to agreeing with the committee’s heavily critiqued seeding of ISU.
Do you guys really think he is going to go on an interview and deviate from what the committee talking points are? Do you really think a committee member is going to go public and say "Yeah this committee really screwed up the seeding?"
No that is not going to happen and if you think it is you live in fantasy land. While some on the committee may not agree with the way things were seeded, they aren't going to publicly defy the committee. I mean that would be a great way to blacklist yourself among your fellow AD's.
Not if those games didn't actually matter in their selection, it sure seems like they went ultra hard on the "no recency bias" thing that he mentioned.
So why go on radio at all? What value came from sitting down with Emory?
Y'all really want Bruce back, dontcha
I think a non-answer is the right way to go. He doesn't need to throw the committee under the bus to be politically correct and vague. Sometimes not putting yourself out there is better than saying these types of things.
Maybe stick to football. We are absolutely not the worst 2 seed, and got boned on our draw, UConn even more so as the overall 1.
That's the issue. I didn't have us as a 1 seed. However, there is just no way our resume is the last 2 seed. Time to move on, but we should have been at the very least in front of Arizona. I don't care that they likely "needed" to keep Arizona in the West to have someone out there with fans to actually attend the games (because that's exactly what they did), we are superior to Arizona any way you look at it. The Wildcats should have been shipped out East as the 2 and we should have been the 2 in the West imo.
But let's go win this damn thing, so it doesn't matter.
Jamie Pollard is the best thing that has happened to Iowa State sports in my lifetime (I'm 40, I'm a man). That said, he screwed up.
1) JP could have had that interview go exactly as it did minus saying that he had us as the 4th 2 seed and this would be a nothing-burger. He didn't, and that was his biggest mistake here. As others have pointed out, what a ******* distraction. If I'm on the team and I hear that my own AD "undervalued" us in comparison to ... just about every other source out there, that pisses me off. It did NOT need to be said, at all. I like that Jamie is an open book - at times, that's his best quality, but this was an amazing display of lack of awareness.
2) Second biggest mistake - he was just wrong in his seeding. I'm not a bracket nerd, but I am an over-the-top obsessive fan. It's not just this message board, it's not just Iowa State sources... it's literally everywhere you look you see everyone saying that Iowa State was under seeded. UConn, Kenpom, Torvik, reddit, facebook, CBS, etc. To be the 8th overall seed is damn near objectively wrong. Jamie explained his reasoning, which seemed to me to be mostly focused on head to head comparisons. ISU vs. TA&M and ISU vs. Va Tech. Bracket-nerds, correct me if I'm wrong, but head to head matchups aren't mentioned in the criteria for the committee correct? I could see that being looked at if in the end you had 2 teams that were tied in your rankings, but that should not have been the case. As others have pointed out, NCSoS shouldn't be weighted higher than any other part of your schedule. In the end what I think happened is that Jamie for whatever reason over compensated for bias. As others have pointed out, the committee should not be made up of people like Jamie (ADs and Commissioners).
1) JP could have had that interview go exactly as it did minus saying that he had us as the 4th 2 seed and this would be a nothing-burger. He didn't, and that was his biggest mistake here. As others have pointed out, what a ******* distraction. If I'm on the team and I hear that my own AD "undervalued" us in comparison to ... just about every other source out there, that pisses me off. It did NOT need to be said, at all. I like that Jamie is an open book - at times, that's his best quality, but this was an amazing display of lack of awareness.
2) Second biggest mistake - he was just wrong in his seeding. I'm not a bracket nerd, but I am an over-the-top obsessive fan. It's not just this message board, it's not just Iowa State sources... it's literally everywhere you look you see everyone saying that Iowa State was under seeded. UConn, Kenpom, Torvik, reddit, facebook, CBS, etc. To be the 8th overall seed is damn near objectively wrong. Jamie explained his reasoning, which seemed to me to be mostly focused on head to head comparisons. ISU vs. TA&M and ISU vs. Va Tech. Bracket-nerds, correct me if I'm wrong, but head to head matchups aren't mentioned in the criteria for the committee correct? I could see that being looked at if in the end you had 2 teams that were tied in your rankings, but that should not have been the case. As others have pointed out, NCSoS shouldn't be weighted higher than any other part of your schedule. In the end what I think happened is that Jamie for whatever reason over compensated for bias. As others have pointed out, the committee should not be made up of people like Jamie (ADs and Commissioners).
Gosh we have a whiny fan base that feels privileged!!
Revel in the fact we went 27-7. Finished 2nd in the Big12 and won the Conference Tournament. One of the Cyclones greatest seasons EVER!
We are a 2 seed and playing in Omaha, a huge advantage in creating Hilton West. To advance to the Sweet 16 we have to beat SDSU and WSU or Drake. If we lose this weekend it isn't because Jamie didn't do his job. It will be because either we didn't play great or our opponent brought their A game. That happens in the NCAA Tournament because it includes ONLY the best teams.
Revel in the fact we went 27-7. Finished 2nd in the Big12 and won the Conference Tournament. One of the Cyclones greatest seasons EVER!
We are a 2 seed and playing in Omaha, a huge advantage in creating Hilton West. To advance to the Sweet 16 we have to beat SDSU and WSU or Drake. If we lose this weekend it isn't because Jamie didn't do his job. It will be because either we didn't play great or our opponent brought their A game. That happens in the NCAA Tournament because it includes ONLY the best teams.
