Thoughts on social media sites? UPDATE: Apple, IBM, Disney, etc. stopped advertising on Twitter - Musk suing

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Wouldn't bot farms just pay $8/month to have bots? It might slow them down but I don't see how it gets rid of them completely any more than a screening policy for any account already would. I'm dubious that it's about "bots" at all.
 
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Wouldn't bot farms just pay $8/month to have bots? It might slow them down but I don't see how it gets rid of them completely any more than a screening policy for any account already would. I'm dubious that it's about "bots" at all.

If your someone doing it for fun, it may put a stop to it. But if your someone who has some kind of purpose or alternative motive, then this is just a minor cost to them.
 

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MIcro transaction addicted companies. They need that revenue stream. In the case of CF it's a service that I find brings value. In the case of Twitter I use it second hand but I never use it on the app, or myself. I only use it to read updates typically through another media like a message board. I think Musk will find that the eye balls from someone like me are worth more than whatever he thinks I would charge to use it.
 
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Do I think it will actually happen for the long-term? No. In the rare case this comes to fruition it will be a balancing act as creators who are starting to see monetary benefits of their Twitter engagement from free users would likely see a reduction. I don't know or care enough to research it but I'd be curious if there ends up being some sort of revenue-sharing adjustment with those creators.
 

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My first job out of college dealt a lot with 1st, 2nd, and 3rd class mail solicitation. It was a legit business, but having to pay factored into the positive response rate of the mailing. Therefore, we just didn't mail it blindly to anyone.

BUT, along came email and, beyond infrastructure, zero cost of email solicitation. Just imagine if postage was free, how much crap you'd receive daily. In my experience, I think it's a good thing to charge because it removes one layer of unwanted stuff.

In case you didn't know, most countries are opt-in for solicitation, be we are opt-out. In other words, in most other places if you want email from someone, you have to 'allow' them first. To me, that says a lot about us.
 
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Do I think it will actually happen for the long-term? No. In the rare case this comes to fruition it will be a balancing act as creators who are starting to see monetary benefits of their Twitter engagement from free users would likely see a reduction. I don't know or care enough to research it but I'd be curious if there ends up being some sort of revenue-sharing adjustment with those creators.

The idea of me PAYING twitter so twitter can turn around and sell my data seems laughable. There's a movement that people should be compensated for their data being harvested, not the other way around.

I know some of that is going on already with services I do use, but most of them i'm not paying for. The few that I do pay for I get 100x the utility of twitter/X and the free alternative often sucks.
 
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In case you didn't know, most countries are opt-in for solicitation, be we are opt-out. In other words, in most other places if you want email from someone, you have to 'allow' them first. To me, that says a lot about us.

A similar thing I often bring up is we're one of very few countries that allows prescription drugs be direct marketed to consumers. Someone was complaining about it in a gameday thread. We complain about various solicitation overload yet we enable it at every turn.
 
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The idea of me PAYING twitter so twitter can turn around and sell my data seems laughable. There's a movement that people should be compensated for their data being harvested, not the other way around.

I know some of that is going on already with services I do use, but most of them i'm not paying for. The few that I do pay for I get 100x the utility of twitter/X and the free alternative often sucks. The free alternatives to Twitter are already much better for me as I'm not a Nazi.
20 years ago, I saw this coming and hypothesized the perfect business. It would allow you a layer of 100% anonymity and you'd have a proxy negotiate the value of you as a consumer. Everyone (ie both sides) wins BIG time that way. WHY that hasn't happened yet is beyond me.
 
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The only real reason to not migrate to Threads at this point is the trend setters who are hanging onto twitter (understandably because who wants more platforms). The next step will be some reluctantly post everything on both since Threads offers people the same thing for free and with less hate speach, then eventually it'll just be Threads.

All the "technical" reasons are fading away daily and with the skeleton crew Twitter's technical negatives will soon outweigh their competition.

Nah. There is very little reason to stay with Twitter. There are a whole lot of reasons to not migrate to Threads.
 
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Nah. There is very little reason to stay with Twitter. There are a whole lot of reasons to not migrate to Threads.

So you're a Woof user? I totally get advocating for no social media use.

I'm fantastic without Twitter. Do not miss at all.
 

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A similar thing I often bring up is we're one of very few countries that allows prescription drugs be direct marketed to consumers. Someone was complaining about it in a gameday thread. We complain about various solicitation overload yet we enable it at every turn.

Some of that is just our broken system in general that makes us need that.

Lots of people aren't getting regular care because of our ****** system, they develop conditions that they just chalk up as unfixable\'part of getting old', and instead of talking to a doctor about it at a regular checkup, we need ads that are like "hey, you don't have to live with this, ask your doctor if you'd be a good fit for this drug"
 

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MIcro transaction addicted companies. They need that revenue stream. In the case of CF it's a service that I find brings value. In the case of Twitter I use it second hand but I never use it on the app, or myself. I only use it to read updates typically through another media like a message board. I think Musk will find that the eye balls from someone like me are worth more than whatever he thinks I would charge to use it.

It’s going to be hitting EVERYTHING and it’s total garbage. The subscription model is sooo ******* tiring.

Most of the major auto manufacturers will be limiting vehicle features in the very near future unless you pay for subscription packages. Some of them already do. I can’t use the remote start in my Volvo unless I pay 200 a year for the app. The big three in the US already have huge projected targets for subscription based services.
 
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It’s going to be hitting EVERYTHING and it’s total garbage. The subscription model is sooo ******* tiring.

Most of the major auto manufacturers will be limiting vehicle features in the very near future unless you pay for subscription packages. Some of them already do. I can’t use the remote start in my Volvo unless I pay 200 a year for the app. The big three in the US already have huge projected targets for subscription based services.
Ya that's why I'm choose to do aftermarket for accessories but as these electric cars come out I'm sure there will be a lot of that crap. Automatic driving car? 1000. Movies while you drive with music? 300. Etc on and on.
 

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Ya that's why I'm choose to do aftermarket for accessories but as these electric cars come out I'm sure there will be a lot of that crap. Automatic driving car? 1000. Movies while you drive with music? 300. Etc on and on.

It’s trending towards even basic features. BMW is now charging for auto high beams. GM is ditching Android auto and CarPlay in their EVs so they can charge a subscription and collect more user data. MB is offering a 1200 a year “acceleration increase” subscription. The list goes on and just like everything else, as they ease people into it, they’ll keep adding and adding to the list to gouge as much money as they can.
 
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