Iowa City Pedestrian hit by car

[Mr.G.Spot]

I don’t disagree that it is a huge mistake. If it was a family member of mine, I would want justice. I guess what my point is is, why does the general public need to know who it was that committed the crime? What good does that do anyone (minus the family/friends of the individual who was killed) this instance to know who did it. What does it matter to any of us who did it?

Because it will be public record. This is potentially involuntary manslaughter. Why have public records then?

 

[Cyballzz]

Every situation is different though, imo it should be none unless there’s a specific public safety concern. Like sexual assault that people should be aware of or something. As far as your last sentence I agree, but people specifically wanting him named because of who is dad is is also wrong.

Maybe those people have long held the belief of naming all minors, but I kind of doubt it.

I have simply because I was one of those named minors once. My crime was simply having a case of beer in my possession. Doesn't seem fair does it? I wasn't a bad kid, I made a mistake but now all of a sudden I am in the police blotter at 17 years old because of a ******* 24 pack.

 

[3TrueFans]

I have simply because I was one of those named minors once. My crime was simply having a case of beer in my possession. Doesn't seem fair does it? I wasn't a bad kid, I made a mistake but now all of a sudden I am in the police blotter at 17 years old because of a ******* 24 pack.

That's a bummer, and if that's your belief I don't fault you for it.

 

[clonedude]

I really feel for the kid if he wasn’t drunk, or using his cellphone, etc…. and someone just darted out in front of him and there was nothing he could do. And I think that might just be the case here.

However, if other minors have their names reported, then there’s no reason for his name not to be reported. It should not be a benefit of being in a rich and famous household.

 

[clone4life82]

Do you seriously believe that that doesn’t already happen whether it is just or not? I’ve seen enough people hire good enough lawyers and walk away from crimes. Had a neighbor twice be at fault but the first trial was an estate of a young couple and the second was a young child of a poor family. Walked away from both and only had attorney fees from those deaths. He still drives recklessly.

Actually I do believe that happens, and get where you’re coming from. I’m just not of the belief that it’s the public’s right to hold the individuals at fault for a crime (whether guilty or not) when the justice system has failed.

 

[3TrueFans]

However, if other minors have their names reported, then there’s no reason for his name not to be reported.

Except nobody seems to know if this is actually true or not.

 

[isufbcurt]

Actually I do believe that happens, and get where you’re coming from. I’m just not of the belief that it’s the public’s right to hold the individuals at fault for a crime (whether guilty or not) when the justice system has failed.

So you don't judge OJ?

 

[IsUaClone2]

The real concern, as far as I'm concerned, is if the authorities are willing in some cases to withhold some information; how do you know for who they are willing, how much information they are willing to withhold, and for how long they will withhold it? If the reason is predicated on identity, then we tend not to fully trust our authorities.

A fatal accident is not a good time to have this discussion because regardless of whomever drove the car, causing an accidental loss of life is horrifyingly traumatic for everybody.

 

[clone4life82]

Because it will be public record. This is potentially involuntary manslaughter. Why have public records then?

Good question? I can see instances where if the individual was deemed a further risk to the public after they’re let out being a good instance where it would be good to publish the name (sexual assault. Voluntary manslaughter. Repeat assault offenders. Etc). I guess in some instances where the individual case was more of an isolated accident and there wasn’t further risk to the public I could see not publishing.

 

[Cyballzz]

The real concern, as far as I'm concerned, is if the authorities are willing in some cases to withhold some information; how do you know for who they are willing, how much information they are willing to withhold, and for how long they will withhold it? If the reason is predicated on identity, then we tend not to fully trust our authorities.

A fatal accident is not a good time to have this discussion because regardless of whomever drove the car, causing an accidental loss of life is horrifyingly traumatic for everybody.

I think that is probably the larger point. Where is the line for who gets to be publicly named and who doesn't?

And if they are willing to cover up a name in a fatal accident so easily what else are the willing to keep? The Davenport tragedy has shown us how ugly a lot of this can be.

 

[clone4life82]

So you don't judge OJ?

Honestly? I thought he was guilty, but beyond that what good does it do for me to worry about whether he was or wasn’t guilty? I’d argue none. It’s really none of my business.

 

[VeloClone]

Honestly? I thought he was guilty, but beyond that what good does it do for me to worry about whether he was or wasn’t guilty? I’d argue none. It’s really none of my business.

Don't you think it is the business of people who might get in a business or personal relationship with him? Women might want to know what kind of man they are getting mixed up with before they start dating him.

 

[Mr.G.Spot]

Good question? I can see instances where if the individual was deemed a further risk to the public after they’re let out being a good instance where it would be good to publish the name (sexual assault. Voluntary manslaughter. Repeat assault offenders. Etc). I guess in some instances where the individual case was more of an isolated accident and there wasn’t further risk to the public I could see not publishing.

Good luck creating all the "what if's" on what gets published and what doesn't. In all likelihood, this will favor the rich and connected.

 

[NorthCyd]

Honestly? I thought he was guilty, but beyond that what good does it do for me to worry about whether he was or wasn’t guilty? I’d argue none. It’s really none of my business.

You may not care about it but It's always in the public interest to know if justice is being served.

 

[Acylum]

I guess I should probably be pretty pissed off that my name ended up in the police blotter at 17 years old for getting caught with a case of beer.

Are we related?

 

[3TrueFans]

So you don't judge OJ?

How'd you get to an adult that was charged with 2 murders from a minor that hasn't been charged with anything and think, yeah, this is an apt comparison? lol

 

[CaposCy]

Doesn't the ISP normally investigate fatal accidents? They have specialized tools to be able to reconstruct accidents. I guess it's possible for a bigger department like the ICPD to have the same tools. If the state patrol investigated this, you can usually find the report here https://accidentreports.iowa.gov/

 

[FOREVERTRUE]

I may be wrong but usually don't most places withhold the minor's name unless/until they are charged even if everyone knows who it was about.

 

[Cyhig]

Explain the double standard then.

It seems to me you are trying way to hard to "win" an internet battle. I suggest taking a step away from the keyboard, go for a walk or do something outside, and just relax. No matter how hard you try, you won't convince people one way or the other. You've made your opinion quite clear. Time to move on

(Note: I am not saying I agree or disagree with your opinion - just offering some mental health advice)

 

[3TrueFans]

It seems to me you are trying way to hard to "win" an internet battle. I suggest taking a step away from the keyboard, go for a walk or do something outside, and just relax. No matter how hard you try, you won't convince people one way or the other. You've made your opinion quite clear. Time to move on

(Note: I am not saying I agree or disagree with your opinion - just offering some mental health advice)

It's hot as balls outside.