Omaha and Milan aren’t like most freshman. The key will be getting some vets to come in and take all the pressure off them. Not having team’s best defenders guard those freshman will open them up for a lot of early success.
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Yeah I guess I'm saying he's not a backcourt player. At least not in the sense of what this team now needs. The team next year needs at least one 2 guard in the truest form. Christopherson, McGee, Naz, Thomas, Shayok, AJ Green, or even a Babb or Donovan Jackson.
You're right, it's hard to tell what Burton would have been if he wasn't on a team that didn't need him to shoot from 3. But all those guys above were higher volume, and more consistent shooters.
Feels like the ideal scoring order would be
1. Transfer vet
2. Milan
3. Omaha/transfer
4. Transfer/Omaha
If we get that, assuming neither of the FRs struggle then we're in a good spot. Omaha is one and done so im not gonna be super worried about his development yet but ideally Milan takes over the 1 spot or makes it a 1A/1B scenerio by the end of the year
EDIT - Forgot Tre King. He'll be awesome next year when we get him some people to pull the defenders out of the paint on him
I'm confident in the staff's ability to plug in guys to be effective at their strengths. Lipsey and Hunter fit in just fine and I don't know what was expected of Watson but he belongs too.
CW said in the recent pod that Lipsey post-game said right away he needs to find a jumper so it's not like it's not known to those in the program. Him just being a threat would help a great deal especially if he ends up being the 2 spot.
Gabe was a great player for the program, and was a perfect fit for TJ's change to a suffocating defense. He did make improvements from last season to this season. But hypothetically, if he had one more season of eligibility, would you feel confident in his ability to be the go-to scorer, and shooter, that this team needs next season?
I actually am betting on Tamin being on that list. I think he’ll shoot 30% from 3 and will develop a floater and a pull up in the offseason.
Nope. Gabe would’ve been a PERFECT #3. Defensive specialist who can knock down wide open threes. The fact Gabe had to guard the team’s best player while also being guarded by the team’s best defender is a true testament to how special he was. He squeezed every ounce of effort out of his system when his talent didn’t actually match up to how he was being guarded.
Exactly. Boil this all down is we need a alpha scorer. Someone who can get 20 a game. We havent had that guy for awhile. Next years guy will need to be a transfer if we have that guy. It does look like those 2 can help next year. But to expect them to score 15 plus a game in league is a lot for any freshman.
Nick Weiler-Babb was 20-62 from 3 his first season in 20 starts. 42-118 in 35 starts his second season. I would be ecstatic if Lipsey could be somewhere between those 2 seasons.
I have 2 lines of thought on it
1. It is very hard to get shooting numbers up that quickly. It could very easily be a multi year thing. If he can just get comfortable next year with better help I will take that as a W.
2. It's not a mechanics thing at all. It's a confidence and reps thing. We just had 2 players in Grill and Gabe go through that last year and look at them this year.
I'm gonna set the expectations low but I think there's good reason to expect him to improve next year too
I don't think so. His best comparison is Niang. Milan might be slightly taller/longer and is a better 3pt shooter and mid-range shooter than Niang was, but Niang was heavier and probably a little better in the post because of it. Milan will probably get pushed around in the post a little next year. Niang didn't have that probably as a freshman, he was pretty strong.
Milan isn't the athlete that Dekkers or Grady **** are.
Yep. That’d be perfect. Lipsey has a very good looking shot it’s honestly just a confidence and development thing. It was never a huge necessity for him. He’s got a very good work ethic and I’m not going to be shocked at all to see a tremendous jump in his shot making abilities next year.
In a better situation Gabe was a Chris Babb type, maybe even better in the ability to harass and screw up the passing lanes.
He actually reminds me of Uthoff
From what I could tell it was a timing of release issue. The actual shot looks fine but it takes some time to get there.
Looks to me like he has the touch and feel though.
Gabe was probably a better on ball defender than Babb but Babb was more dynamic in his ability to guard more positions. Babb was also doing that in a defensive scheme that was basically not existent lol
Yeah I agree. Once he gets that down he’s going to be dangerous. Him being able to knock down a pull up jumper would enhance his game immensely. Imagine him taking a dudes hip off and being able to stop on a dime for an elbow jumper? Plus he’s so athletic that he can rise above defenders for that shot
He was 'the guy who guards'.
And had reliable scorers around him including a year with one of the most dynamic players in the country.
Gabe guarded like crazy and then needed to attempt things on offense that were outside of his wheelhouse.
